All Blacks vs Fiji 2
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@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
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@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
Nah that's how he always bloody plays! Maybe it's easier to see without any red mist because Akira isn't starting...
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
Nah that's how he always bloody plays! Maybe it's easier to see without any red mist because Akira isn't starting...
Akira was starting …
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@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
Nah that's how he always bloody plays! Maybe it's easier to see without any red mist because Akira isn't starting...
Akira was starting …
Prexactly. Hence no red mist to peer through.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
Nah that's how he always bloody plays! Maybe it's easier to see without any red mist because Akira isn't starting...
Akira was starting …
Prexactly. Hence no red mist to peer through.
Ah, I get your point. Although I think as I’m hardly the only one to not rate Frizzell test efforts of the past year that you may have the opposite of red mist? Pink mist?
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@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
Nah that's how he always bloody plays! Maybe it's easier to see without any red mist because Akira isn't starting...
Akira was starting …
Prexactly. Hence no red mist to peer through.
Ah, I get your point. Although I think as I’m hardly the only one to not rate Frizzell test efforts of the past year that you may have the opposite of red mist? Pink mist?
Huh? I don't really rate him either. I'm saying he played how he usually plays. Busy, accurate, but no impact.
Watch a couple of his runs or defensive plays, absolutely flies in and you think he's going to clatter people out of the way, but it just...stops.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
Nah that's how he always bloody plays! Maybe it's easier to see without any red mist because Akira isn't starting...
Akira was starting …
Prexactly. Hence no red mist to peer through.
Ah, I get your point. Although I think as I’m hardly the only one to not rate Frizzell test efforts of the past year that you may have the opposite of red mist? Pink mist?
Huh? I don't really rate him either. I'm saying he played how he usually plays. Busy, accurate, but no impact.
Watch a couple of his runs or defensive plays, absolutely flies in and you think he's going to clatter people out of the way, but it just...stops.
Oh ok, so I’m actually rating him higher than you.🤣
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@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
Finally figured out what it is with Frizzel at test level. Is actually really busy and accurate, does his job and boy does he hit as hard as he can...but...it's post hit that's the problem - just has zero leg drive through contact it seems, in both attack and defence.
I thought this was his best 20 minutes of test rugby for a while.
I thought he played how he always plays...
Well, I noticed his runs and hits (more effective maybe)more this week than I remember from his other tests, more like his Super game.
Nah that's how he always bloody plays! Maybe it's easier to see without any red mist because Akira isn't starting...
Akira was starting …
Prexactly. Hence no red mist to peer through.
Ah, I get your point. Although I think as I’m hardly the only one to not rate Frizzell test efforts of the past year that you may have the opposite of red mist? Pink mist?
Huh? I don't really rate him either. I'm saying he played how he usually plays. Busy, accurate, but no impact.
Watch a couple of his runs or defensive plays, absolutely flies in and you think he's going to clatter people out of the way, but it just...stops.
Oh ok, so I’m actually rating him higher than you.🤣
Prolly cos you hate Rieko.
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That was so much better! We had forwards!
Thought the loose forward trio was well balanced.
Although Havili tried too much on his own, he is definitely the one we need to keep playing with ALB. J.Goodhue will put pressure on the combo when he gets back!
Riko needs to be in the starting 15 on the wing. I would go Riko at 11 and Will at 14. Any drop of form and Reece is in.
S.Barrett was simply awesome. Pat. T, although the guy has mana, his game doesn't translate to test rugby.
We need Moody back as a starter, then De Groot can be eased in. Want to see Ross start at some stage. -
Changing the subject... Did I mention Eden winning the Gallaher Shield?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
He’s a bit of the forgotten man for some reason
Jacobson has been played in a lot of different positions and has been injured in recent seasons. Settling at 8 this season has done him a world of good I think.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
Were you sleeping ?
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
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Forwards were all good, thought Shannon F hit harder because the Fijians were out on their feet- often bench players look better but hey he can only play what is in front of him!
I thought all the players played well but what is going on with Taylor? -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I thought all the players played well but what is going on with Taylor?
It's strange eh, he was absolutely on fire in SRA, slightly quieter in SRTT (did he get injured?) and now is only showing slight glimpses of anything resembling what he's capable of.
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@tj said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
"Marginal" says Smithy... straight on his forearms
I mentioned that to Master Pakman at previous ruck he was NOT supporting his weight. Very quick to stabilise and lift so picture ref sees is often one of legal technique.
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Lock havili into 12. Really good game.
I don’t get what bower brings. De groot was better at super level and he looks better at international level. Imho de groot will be a world class star, he’s what just 22 years old?
Fiji were disappointing.
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@victor-meldrew Will improve his rating from a 4 to 5.
