All Blacks vs Fiji
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
I had to rewatch all of it just now.
I was a bit hard on SF, he was good in the lineouts but just not very dynamic and slow in places. Him and Patty T were noticeably absent on my screen from some important rucks. We were so crappy in protecting the breakdown, Fiji had a field day.
Of our locks in general play, apart from Whitelock, and a rusty, weaker Retallick, there is little depth. I think they need to try, um, maybe Tom Robinson?
I thought Jacobson was good and defensively he certainly was (not on long enough for attack) but for the reserves I only just noticed now how important Lomax was for the mauls, he and De Groot stayed close to Coles and looked far more cohesive, energetic and stubborn compared to the starting front row. Taylor wasn't so bad on second viewing, he tried, but it was just him and Retallick of the tight 5 with any sort of application. I'm worried about Laulala, he waddled around like a chunky panda. The replacement props looked far superior in general play, Laulala at least should be a senior player now.
Very exciting to see Dmac Ioane and Jordan link near the end, sheer speed and class even if the movement was stopped and Ioane had some nice passes but doesn't seem to link that well to his 12. Midfield a work in progress I feel.
BB: had a fine game I thought, except someone else needs to kick the conversions.
Bridge and Reece- well both tried, and Reece had his run, but they were physically outmatched and Bridge had a really bad read on that Fijian try, nice linking, but why is he doing that and not the midfield?
Captaincy, the ABs stiffened noticeably when Coles and Whitelock were on the field.
We were probably lucky the Fijian backline weren't as good as their big forwards, who tired in the last 10. But didn't they play well with 14 men!@nostrildamus front paged this one too (fyi @Duluth )
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@jailbreak7 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Cowley-Tuioti and Lachlan Boshier
This is akin to lamenting the loss of Paul Tito and James Blackie.
Nope because those two had more available top-notch rivals in those positions.
We had three opensides down and we have locking depth equivalent to Australia in the bad days!Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin, we can't afford to lose absolute world class superstars like that in the ABs, how ever can we replace them?
Oh hang on, they aren't even the best players in their position at their super franchise? But but....
And it's a really wide coffin because Foster is fat, hur hur hur
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
I thought this was a forum.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
I thought this was a forum.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos.I am not sure I have ever read the word 'solipsism' on the Fern before.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
I thought this was a forum.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos.I am not sure I have ever read the word 'solipsism' on the Fern before.
I’m even more surprised a point I made was described as “subtle”
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
I thought this was a forum.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos.I'm not moving goalposts, nor conflating or extrapolating wildly, which is a weird accusation to make with that post, I can't really follow what you're trying to say.
I'll repeat, it's pretty easy. lamenting the loss of GCT and Boshier is akin to lamenting the loss of Josh Blackie and Peter Tito.
The response "Nope because those two had more available top-notch rivals in those positions" is exactly the same as saying there were better players available, they weren't selected and were not a loss to the AB's. The loss of Patrick Tito and Jeff Blackie was not a reason the AB's would have struggled (if they did). Just like the loss of Leyland Boshier and Graham CT aren't a worry at all for the AB's form.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
I thought this was a forum.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos.I am not sure I have ever read the word 'solipsism' on the Fern before.
I’m even more surprised a point I made was described as “subtle”
I've got you on ignore so must have missed what that point was. Even more subtle.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
I thought this was a forum.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos.I am not sure I have ever read the word 'solipsism' on the Fern before.
I’m even more surprised a point I made was described as “subtle”
I've got you on ignore so must have missed what that point was. Even more subtle.
Got me on ignore and then quotes me.
Yeah that’s real choice internetting there bro.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,
Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?
Are you jailbreak?
nope but you replied to me.
Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.
I thought this was a forum.
Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.
My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos.I am not sure I have ever read the word 'solipsism' on the Fern before.
I’m even more surprised a point I made was described as “subtle”
I've got you on ignore so must have missed what that point was. Even more subtle.
Got me on ignore and then quotes me.
Yeah that’s real choice internetting there bro.
Sorry missed that, got you on ignore.
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