Lions v British & Irish Lions

Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

MiketheSnow

@sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@duluth said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

They’re not passing him fit though are they?

Surely it’s his employers who are ‘sub- contracting’ him to BIL

gt12

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@duluth said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

They’re not passing him fit though are they?

Surely it’s his employers who are ‘sub- contracting’ him to BIL

And the BIL coaches who clearly don’t give a fuck.

That’s wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves.

MiketheSnow

@gt12 said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@duluth said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

They’re not passing him fit though are they?

Surely it’s his employers who are ‘sub- contracting’ him to BIL

And the BIL coaches who clearly don’t give a fuck.

That’s wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Look we both agree that he shouldn’t be playing but once he’s passed his club’s protocols, what the policy and culpability after that?

gt12

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@gt12 said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@duluth said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

They’re not passing him fit though are they?

Surely it’s his employers who are ‘sub- contracting’ him to BIL

And the BIL coaches who clearly don’t give a fuck.

That’s wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Look we both agree that he shouldn’t be playing but once he’s passed his club’s protocols, what the policy and culpability after that?

Being a human being who gives a fuck about whether someone, who is in your responsibility, being able to remember their grandkid’s names in the future?

MiketheSnow

@gt12 said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@gt12 said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@duluth said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

They’re not passing him fit though are they?

Surely it’s his employers who are ‘sub- contracting’ him to BIL

And the BIL coaches who clearly don’t give a fuck.

That’s wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Look we both agree that he shouldn’t be playing but once he’s passed his club’s protocols, what the policy and culpability after that?

Being a human being who gives a fuck about someone being able to remember their kid’s names?

Which one of his kids names did he get wrong when you spoke with him?

gt12

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@gt12 said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@gt12 said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

@duluth said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

They’re not passing him fit though are they?

Surely it’s his employers who are ‘sub- contracting’ him to BIL

And the BIL coaches who clearly don’t give a fuck.

That’s wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Look we both agree that he shouldn’t be playing but once he’s passed his club’s protocols, what the policy and culpability after that?

Being a human being who gives a fuck about someone being able to remember their kid’s names?

Which one of his kids names did he get wrong when you spoke with him?

If that is the criteria for discussion here, we can shut this place down.

Why on earth not take care of the player and give them a chance later?

I’ve got a lot of shit things to say about Steve Hanson, but he’d have made sure this guy wasn’t playing.

sparky

@mikethesnow One for the lawyers certianly in terms of finance issues.

But morally the correct action is obvious. If the B and I management have seen that video how on earth can they pick L C-D today and then talk about players' welfare ever again? He must be withdrawn.

sparky

What worries me most here is that the B & I coach is Warren Gatland who due to coach a NZ Super franchise next season. Absolutely appalling that a senior NZR coach could have so little concern for a player's long term welfare.

Catogrande

@sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

What worries me most here is that the B & I coach is Warren Gatland who due to coach a NZ Super franchise next season. Absolutely appalling that a senior NZR coach could have so little concern for a player's long term welfare.

Perhaps we should mention George North to Gatland?

MiketheSnow

Christ pull the reigns in on the moral high horse

If you’ve followed / go back through the head injuries threads you’ll see I’m the biggest advocate of a 3-week sit down for concussion like it was when I was playing.

Should he have even been allowed to fly, let alone be picked?

I DON’T KNOW

And that’s the point

I’m trying to distinguish between moral opinion and World Rugby policy and protocol.

Examined on pitch
Presumably failed HIA and sat the rest of the match out
Had subsequent HIA at recognised time intervals post-injury and at some point he passed.

Given the go ahead by his club doctor

Passed BIL medical to join tour

What’s next?

Garland ignoring the policy, protocol and current science and saying see you in a couple of weeks?

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