All Blacks 2021
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Pakman squad:
Based on Moari squad having a few who might have been selected.
Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Aumua
Props: Laulala, Mafileo, Lomax Karl T, Ross, [Bower] (DeGroot unlucky)
Locks: S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, Tuipulotu, Retallick, Vaa'i
Loosies: Papali'i, Sotutu, Savea, Aioane, Frizell (Blackadder if not fit), Robinson, [Jacobson] (Kirifi might be given another chance)
Half Back: Weber, Smith, [TTT]
First Fives: Mo'unga, B. Barrett
Midfield: Havili, Gregory, ALB (assume misses one test), [PUJ] (Ennor unlucky)
Back 3: DMac, J. Barrett, Jordan, Reece, Rioane, [Nareki] (Lester unlucky)Midfield is area I'm least convinced by.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
Okay, Sparky's squad.
Ethan De Groot, Tupou Vaa'i, Tom Robinson and Zarn Sulivan just miss out.
Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Aumua
Props: Laulala, Karl T, Hodgman, Angus T, Newell, Ross
Locks: S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, Tuipulotu, Retallick, PPP
Loosies: Papali'i, Sotutu, Savea, A. Ioane, Blackadder, Grace, Jacobson
Half Back: Weber, Drummond, Smith (won't play)
First Fives: Mo'unga, B. Barrett
Midfield: Havili, R. Ioane, PUJ, Nankivell
Back 3: DMac, J. Barrett, Jordan, Reece, Fainga'anuku, Nareki
PPP over Vaa'i?
Nankivall and PPP in Maori squad.
Also Harmon and Tupea, who would have been close for me.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
Okay, Sparky's squad.
Ethan De Groot, Tupou Vaa'i, Tom Robinson and Zarn Sulivan just miss out.
Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Aumua
Props: Laulala, Karl T, Hodgman, Angus T, Newell, Ross
Locks: S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, Tuipulotu, Retallick, PPP
Loosies: Papali'i, Sotutu, Savea, A. Ioane, Blackadder, Grace, Jacobson
Half Back: Weber, Drummond, Smith (won't play)
First Fives: Mo'unga, B. Barrett
Midfield: Havili, R. Ioane, PUJ, Nankivell
Back 3: DMac, J. Barrett, Jordan, Reece, Fainga'anuku, Nareki
PPP over Vaa'i?
Nankivall and PPP in Maori squad.
Also Harmon and Tupea, who would have been close for me.
I know. I was picking who I'd pick not predicting who will be picked.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
Okay, Sparky's squad.
Ethan De Groot, Tupou Vaa'i, Tom Robinson and Zarn Sulivan just miss out.
Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Aumua
Props: Laulala, Karl T, Hodgman, Angus T, Newell, Ross
Locks: S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, Tuipulotu, Retallick, PPP
Loosies: Papali'i, Sotutu, Savea, A. Ioane, Blackadder, Grace, Jacobson
Half Back: Weber, Drummond, Smith (won't play)
First Fives: Mo'unga, B. Barrett
Midfield: Havili, R. Ioane, PUJ, Nankivell
Back 3: DMac, J. Barrett, Jordan, Reece, Fainga'anuku, Nareki
PPP over Vaa'i?
Nankivall and PPP in Maori squad.
Also Harmon and Tupea, who would have been close for me.
I know. I was picking who I'd pick not predicting who will be picked.
Once Maori picked I found it hard to assume open slather. My team is not quite what I think they’ll pick.
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My squad:
Props: K Tu'inukuafe, N Laulala, T Lomax, A Hogman, E De Groot, G Bower, A Ross
Hooker: C Taylor, A Aumua, D Coles
Locks: S Whitelock, S Barrett, B Retalick, P Tuipulotu, T Vaii
Flankers: D Papalii, H Sotutu, T Robinson, E Blackadder, A Savea( if fit), A Ioane
Scrumhalfs: A Smith, B Webber, F Christie
Flyhalfs: B Barrett, R Moanga, M Hunt
Centre: D Havili, ALB(if fit), R Ioane, L Fianganuku, PUJ
Back three: W Jordan, J Barrett, D McKenzie, S Recce, J Nareki
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Knowler's squad:
Possible All Blacks squad:
Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua.
Props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Angus Ta’avao, George Bower, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Alex Hodgman.
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa’i.
Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Luke Jacobson, Akira Ioane, Shannon Frizell.
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Finlay Christie.
First five-eighths: Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett.
Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Anton Lienert-Brown.
Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Leicester Fainga’anuku.
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@tim I think Ennor might be good enough to make the ABs, but he's mostly been injured the last two years so I can't be sure.
I've seen very little from George Bridge or Finlay Christie to suggest they should be in this squad. Journeymen both. I've reservations about Bower around the park and big concerns about Lomax at scrum time.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim I think Ennor might be good enough to make the ABs, but he's mostly been injured the last two years so I can't be sure.
I've seen very little from George Bridge or Finlay Christie to suggest they should be in this squad. Journeymen both. I've reservations about Bower around the park and big concerns about Lomax at scrum time.
Those are probably the names that stick out for me in that list as well.
If we have spots where the decision is between someone merely adequate or one with potential to be very good in a couple of years time I would go with the latter eg Zarn Sullivan over Bridge.
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:
atu moli could be a smokey if he is fit
Good player. Strong too. Is he fit? What side of the scrum is he these days?
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TVNZ Sport is basically picking the same squad as Knowler (PUJ in for ALB, 35 so no Bridge). Taukei'aho over Aumua is the only real difference.
Props: Nepo Laulala, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, George Bower, Angus Ta’avao, Alex Hodgman
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Samisoni Taukei'aho
Locks: Sam Whitelock (captain), Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupo Vaa'i
Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Finlay Christie
First-fives: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Peter Umaga-Jensen
Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Damian McKenzie, Will Jordan
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@tim they also have Samisoni Taukei'aho over Aumua
I thought TJ playing on weekend made him eligible?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
I thought TJ playing on weekend made him eligible?
He needs to play for Wellington, so must be only first class rugby.
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@taniwharugby Aumua has been a beast this season with limited minutes (mainly because of injury). I reckon he's easily top 3 in those Hooking stocks. I'd argue from what I've seen from him this year he probably offers more than Coles now.
