All Blacks 2021

taniwharugby

@tim Grace is the incumbent...

@mn5 yes, definitely, maybe someone reported him to spca too?

KiwiMurph

@mn5 hopefully in a positive sense

MN5

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

@tim Grace is the incumbent...

@mn5 yes, definitely, maybe someone reported him to spca too?

Depends if he gets like Mitchell Pearce on the piss

Victor Meldrew

@kev said in All Blacks 2021:

Conrad Smith and Joe Stanley would have same said. But top speed is his weakness. Honestly he is much better at Centre because he reads the game on defence and attack better than the others, and is a good distributor. Apart from ALB, the others are lacking.

Have any two quality midfielders been mucked about by the selectors as much as as ALB &JG? Ma'a only become the player he was when he treated with some consistency.

Think the 12/13 stocks are getting better though. Reiko's played much better at 13 this year and Havilli is def. worth a run out at 12 with ALB.

sparky

Okay, Sparky's squad.

Ethan De Groot, Tupou Vaa'i, Tom Robinson and Zarn Sulivan just miss out.

Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Aumua

Props: Laulala, Karl T, Hodgman, Angus T, Newell, Ross

Locks: S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, Tuipulotu, Retallick, PPP

Loosies: Papali'i, Sotutu, Savea, A. Ioane, Blackadder, Grace, Jacobson

Half Back: Weber, Drummond, Smith (won't play)

First Fives: Mo'unga, B. Barrett

Midfield: Havili, R. Ioane, PUJ, Nankivell

Back 3: DMac, J. Barrett, Jordan, Reece, Fainga'anuku, Nareki

Gunner

Have we ever been so weak at halfback?

Let’s hope Afterdavid holds together.

Bovidae

@sparky PPP won't be in the AB squad as he has already been named in the Maori squad. Same for Nankivell.

I expect that ALB will be included and another player (probabaly PUJ) will be added as cover.

sparky

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@sparky PPP won't be in the AB squad as he has already been named in the Maori squad. Same for Nankivell.

I expect that ALB will be included and another player (probabaly PUJ) will be added as cover.

Nothing stopping the coaches moving PPP and Nankivell from the Maori squad to the AB squad and naming replacements for the Maori, especially in Nankivell's case with ALB out. I thought PPP was excellent for the Highlanders on Saturday.

My squad is what I would name not what I think Foz and Co will name on Monday.

Crazy Horse

I am not convinced by PPP, yet. I have my doubts about his fitness, and dare I say it his heart. He was struggling to move around last night before he got that knock. He was doing a lot of walking and taking his time getting off the ground.

His lineout work on his own throw and his ability to win the contact is pretty bloody good so I haven't written him off yet. Aren't I nice.

booboo

@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

Okay, Sparky's squad.

Ethan De Groot, Tupou Vaa'i, Tom Robinson and Zarn Sulivan just miss out.

Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Aumua

Props: Laulala, Karl T, Hodgman, Angus T, Newell, Ross

Locks: S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, Tuipulotu, Retallick, PPP

Loosies: Papali'i, Sotutu, Savea, A. Ioane, Blackadder, Grace, Jacobson

Half Back: Weber, Drummond, Smith (won't play)

First Fives: Mo'unga, B. Barrett

Midfield: Havili, R. Ioane, PUJ, Nankivell

Back 3: DMac, J. Barrett, Jordan, Reece, Fainga'anuku, Nareki

PPP over Vaa'i?

Bones

@crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

I am not convinced by PPP, yet. I have my doubts about his fitness, and dare I say it his heart. He was struggling to move around last night before he got that knock. He was doing a lot of walking and taking his time getting off the ground.

His lineout work on his own throw and his ability to win the contact is pretty bloody good so I haven't written him off yet. Aren't I nice.

Yeah me too - he has a severe case of concrete feet. When he makes it to the contact, he's brilliant and bloody strong, but man he's a worry on defence if there's even a hint of direction change.

taniwharugby

@booboo yea they gave Vaai his debut last year and he was so shit they are gonna drop him for a guy who hasn't done a great deal.

sparky

@booboo Yes, but we have lots of good locks.

The way I see our lock situation is three 2m + guys: Whitelock, Retallick, PPP

Four 1.98 guys: Tuipulotu, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Tom Robinson.

I'd always pick the three big guys for the AB squad because that extra height and physicality are a huge advantage at Test Level.

All four of the other guys are very good players (Robinson can also cover 6), but their leadership skills and smarts give Tuipulotu and Scott Barrett the edge.

Bovidae

I think that Parkinson needs to add a few kegs to his lean frame to make him a more effective ball-carrier at the next level.

sparky

@bones Parkinson's defence is much improved in 2021. He made 12 tackles last night and missed 0.

I think they'll give the nod to Tupou Vaa'i who is an exceptional player. No significant complaints with that selection, although I see PPP as a more natural partner to Whitelock or Retallick if one of them can't play.

sparky

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

I think that Parkinson needs to add a few kegs to his lean frame to make him a more effective ball-carrier at the next level.

Fair comment. With Taylor, Whitelock, Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu we are likely to have four bloody good ball-carriers in the forwards. I want to see the 2021 All Balcks use their forwards to carry more than the ABs have done in recent years.