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    that way we play all teams once not twice against harder teams for us. i found it interesting how close the points ended up

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    I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

    The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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    @nepia i dont support the crusaders. just thought it would be interesting

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    @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

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    @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

    I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

    Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

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    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

    The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

    I'm not discussing this because I think that's how it should have been done. The SRTT comp in this format has never bothered me as it's just a bit of a 'meh' event. I'm only curious about it (the table) because it's been raised.

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    Just a few numbers to ponder.

    Force were beaten on average by 13 points a game..
    Rebels by 24.
    Tahs by 27.

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    @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

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    @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

    Honestly hoped the reds and brumbies might have been more competitive 😞

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    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

    The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

    I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

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    @frank said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

    The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

    I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

    you sure about that?
    https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/crusaders-secure-narrow-win-over-the-brumbies-to-open-their-trans-tasman-campaign/

    Their results against Aussies suggests they are at best comparable

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    @ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
    table would look
    highlander 33
    blues 32
    crusader 32
    chiefs 31
    hurricanes 31

    Crusaders and Blues would be 33; Highlanders 32; Chiefs 31; Hurricanes 28.

    But things probably would've played out differently if this was the way the competition was structured. For instance the Chiefs might not have rested all their entire team against the Blues.

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    @michaelmac
    cheers for correcting that.
    the thing i found interesting was how close all teams were in points, little bit more spread now but still only 5 points

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    @nzzp said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @frank said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

    The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

    I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

    you sure about that?
    https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/crusaders-secure-narrow-win-over-the-brumbies-to-open-their-trans-tasman-campaign/

    Their results against Aussies suggests they are at best comparable

    I am basing it off when they have actually played each other.
    Surely that's a better yardstick.
    43-27 to the Saders at Eden Park.
    29-6 to the Saders in Christchurch.

    Damn certain Blue supporters are happier about having to face the Highlanders than the Saders.

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    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man

    Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

    My view on it going back a while was the same before a ball was even kicked in TT. No lemons!

    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

    I also want to see Aussie teams up against NZ teams, and said so today in this thread.

    The priority, though, is always an Australian-controlled comp first. That's me.

    Others here query the credibility/meaning of a full season combined comp. Why aren't they allowed to? These are good and proper questions.

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    @kiap said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man

    Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

    My view on it going back a while was the same before a ball was even kicked in TT. No lemons!

    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

    I also want to see Aussie teams up against NZ teams, and said so today in this thread.

    The priority, though, is always an Australian-controlled comp first. That's me.

    Others here query the credibility/meaning of a full season combined comp. Why aren't they allowed to? These are good and proper questions.

    I'm not saying no one is allowed to - I'm just going to yawn. 😉

    But, lots of people are using an impromptu format due to pretty good reasons as a stick when that is totally unrealistic.

    Why do you need a fully Oz controlled comp? Your most successful periods have been when you've been in non solely Oz controlled comps. We regularly see discussions about how dysfunctional Oz rugby can be with Sydney favouritism, Qld favouritism, NSW favouritism, Shute Shield favouritism, wrong teams kicked out/kept etc etc. Maybe it's best that your top tier below international has shared control?

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    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    Your most successful periods have been when you've been in non solely Oz controlled comps.

    Oh, you must be talking about the 5-game SPC!

    Host Aucks and Welly followed by a quick trip to Chch and Fiji. In the meantime do our own thing.

    I'm happy with that for 2022. You got a deal.

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    @kiap said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    Your most successful periods have been when you've been in non solely Oz controlled comps.

    Oh, you must be talking about the 5-game SPC!

    Host Aucks and Welly followed by a quick trip to Chch and Fiji. In the meantime do our own thing.

    I'm happy with that for 2022. You got a deal.

    Hardly, there's non Magpies involved in that. 😉

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    @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    Hardly, there's non Magpies involved in that. 😉

    Weren't they in the CANZ?

    Canada/Argentina/NZ. I'm supportive. Tucuman FTW.

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