Super Rugby Trans Tasman
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@shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.
Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.
A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.
Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.
There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.
Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.
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@kiap said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.
Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.
A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.
Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.
There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.
Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.
Yawn.
The more you play NZ teams the better you’ll get. Otherwise just become the 80s South Africa and play your Shute Shield and make up your own laws.
The negativity from Australian posters on forums is off the charts, yet you talk to Oz rugby fans in real life and they’re more than happy with a combined comp knowing that you’ll stagnate otherwise.
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@ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
table would look
highlander 33
blues 32
crusader 32
chiefs 31
hurricanes 31I think it's more relevant to take the full SRA and SRAU tables and add the SRTT points, and see how it looks for all ten teams. How would that look? I say more relevant because it's likely next year we'll have the same games, just intermingled, rather than two rounds of derbies then a cross over comp.
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@stargazer
because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man -
I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝
The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.
I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.
Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)
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@nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝
The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.
I'm not discussing this because I think that's how it should have been done. The SRTT comp in this format has never bothered me as it's just a bit of a 'meh' event. I'm only curious about it (the table) because it's been raised.
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@nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.
Honestly hoped the reds and brumbies might have been more competitive
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@nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝
The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.
I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.
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@frank said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝
The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.
I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.
you sure about that?
https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/crusaders-secure-narrow-win-over-the-brumbies-to-open-their-trans-tasman-campaign/Their results against Aussies suggests they are at best comparable
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@ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
table would look
highlander 33
blues 32
crusader 32
chiefs 31
hurricanes 31Crusaders and Blues would be 33; Highlanders 32; Chiefs 31; Hurricanes 28.
But things probably would've played out differently if this was the way the competition was structured. For instance the Chiefs might not have rested all their entire team against the Blues.
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@michaelmac
cheers for correcting that.
the thing i found interesting was how close all teams were in points, little bit more spread now but still only 5 points
