All Blacks 2021
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
With Cane out there's no way this coaching group won't start Ardie.
Ardie will start at either 7 or 8.
At least he can't play both which means a start for one of Papali'i/Sotutu/Jacobson.
I’d say with both Cane and Frizell out that Ardie is a dead certainty to start in the bigger games
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I'm fine with Ardie starting (though prefer him off the bench), but he'll need a couple of big boppers either side of him.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
I'm fine with Ardie starting (though prefer him off the bench), but he'll need a couple of big boppers either side of him.
Haven’t you heard, he’s big
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
With Cane out there's no way this coaching group won't start Ardie.
Ardie will start at either 7 or 8.
At least he can't play both which means a start for one of Papali'i/Sotutu/Jacobson.
I’d say with both Cane and Frizell out that Ardie is a dead certainty to start in the bigger games
No big games for a while tho, first 3 aren't
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Just realized I put this in the wrong thread.
Provided his head is okay, I think Jacobsen should get the spot at 8. Akira at 6 and Dalton at 7 - with Ardie as the impact sub.
I'd like to see that huge Canterbury prop on the bench and Peter Umaga Jensen be given a go at 12 at some stage. -
@nepia said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
Ioane/Robinson/Blackadder/Grace (flip a four sided coin)
Grace hasn't been up to it this year (he's had a few decent games late in the season like Sotutu) - you'e better off including the Tongan who has had a good season and might finally realise his potential or go with a three sided coin.
Super rugby isn't test rugby.
Hah and I'd forgotten about Frizzel. Isn't he injured?
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@machpants shit of course, how could I forget player voting is the selection criteria this year.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants shit of course, how could I forget player voting is the selection criteria this year.
It's higher than the opinion of someone's who thinks Ardie is not a test match player, he won us a few over the last few years against the boks
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@machpants won games on his own?
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants won games on his own?
Don't be facetious. He was a major factor, same way as Carter, McCaw, etc can be a major factor; and it would be hard to see the victory if another played instead.
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants shit of course, how could I forget player voting is the selection criteria this year.
It's higher than the opinion of someone's
🤣 Yeah good call.
Anyway who thinks he's not a test player? Or are you just making shit up?
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants shit of course, how could I forget player voting is the selection criteria this year.
It's higher than the opinion of someone's
🤣 Yeah good call.
Anyway who thinks he's not a test player? Or are you just making shit up?
Tim above
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants shit of course, how could I forget player voting is the selection criteria this year.
It's higher than the opinion of someone's
🤣 Yeah good call.
Anyway who thinks he's not a test player? Or are you just making shit up?
Tim above
Oh yeah of course because my post was fully influenced by Tim. He wrote it I just posted it.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants shit of course, how could I forget player voting is the selection criteria this year.
It's higher than the opinion of someone's
🤣 Yeah good call.
Anyway who thinks he's not a test player? Or are you just making shit up?
Tim above
Oh yeah of course because my post was fully influenced by Tim. He wrote it I just posted it.
I'm lost?
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants won games on his own?
Don't be facetious. He was a major factor, same way as Carter, McCaw, etc can be a major factor; and it would be hard to see the victory if another played instead.
Ooooookaaaay. You heart Ardie, we get it.
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants won games on his own?
Don't be facetious. He was a major factor, same way as Carter, McCaw, etc can be a major factor; and it would be hard to see the victory if another played instead.
Really? I actually would start him at 7 but I don’t think I’ve ever considered a performance of his as on par with DC or McCaw
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants won games on his own?
Don't be facetious. He was a major factor, same way as Carter, McCaw, etc can be a major factor; and it would be hard to see the victory if another played instead.
Ooooookaaaay. You heart Ardie, we get it.
Nope i just really disagree with this
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 Even worse is pretending that Savea is a test match player. His level is well below that.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants won games on his own?
Don't be facetious. He was a major factor, same way as Carter, McCaw, etc can be a major factor; and it would be hard to see the victory if another played instead.
Really? I actually would start him at 7 but I don’t think I’ve ever considered a performance of his as on par with DC or McCaw
He's never reached those heights, but doesn't mean he wasn't as influential in a particular game, like the 2018 Boks game I posted
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- Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.
Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.
One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.
