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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @nta said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

    Not short enough.

    I haven't seen much of them this year and I know that they lost everything, but are they actually that bad? I mean skills, players, tactics, etc.

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    @snowy said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

    @nta said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

    Not short enough.

    I haven't seen much of them this year and I know that they lost everything, but are they actually that bad? I mean skills, players, tactics, etc.

    Composure and experience, mainly.

    Their learning curve this year would be massive, and adding 2-3 experienced players across the team would be very helpful.

    Charlie Gamble was a superb player for Division 1 park footy, OK at club level, but not sure he's got the chops for Pro Rugby. He hasn't been given many opportunities, that said.

    However, I am reminded that the Crusaders Academy let him go, and they seem to be alright at identifying talent...

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    @snowy

    Just confirming what @nta said - experience was a big issue this year

    Last year the NSW admin made some incorrect decisions around covid. They decided it was a good time to spend less than other teams on player salaries. That resulted in lots of players with a half decent cv leaving

    So what is left is a mixture of talented youngsters and some people that don't belong at this level. Those talented young players have no one to learn off and are making very public errors.
    If they can retain these guys and recruit some old heads they'll turn it around in a year or two.

    I would rate them as being about as good as a mid level NPC side. They might have an upset in them at some stage.. unlikely though

    Tizzano was one of their better players, a tackling machine. Him not playing is a big blow

    Canes 25+

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    Cheers. It was a bit confusing as to why they had turned to custard so much without having seen them play.

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    Wow, Laumape immediately left out of the squad; PU-J & Proctor midfield, and Toala still not in the 23.

    I'm starting to think they've already decided not to re-sign Toala, or Toala has decided to go somewhere else (maybe Rakete-Stones, too?).

    Team Named to Take on Waratahs in Sydney

    Team Named to Take on Waratahs in Sydney


    Edited to add: Why was Toala not allowed to play for Hastings in the Nash Cup Final (because of "Hurricanes duties"), if they don't even give him game time off the bench? What a f*ckwits.

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    @stargazer said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

    Wow, Laumape immediately left out of the squad; PU-J & Proctor midfield

    Hard to carry a specialist 12 on the bench when Leger is already there as the backup 10

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    @duluth If they'd had named Toala on the bench instead of Patafilo, they'd have had 10 cover as well.

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    Tahs have been plucky the last month, and I expect them to be plucky again this weekend.

    But they just don't have the class to match it with top opposition. They are fielding a fair few glorified clubbies, who toil away but never really impact the game.

    The one to watch is Izzy Perese at 13, a Wallaby smokey who has come via the Reds and Brisbane Broncos. Quick, physical, good hands.

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    Team management insisted the decision to rest the in-form Laumape this week was made before he told them on Monday night he was heading to France at the end of SRTT.
    

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125103265/super-rugby-hurricanes-unveil-new-midfield-duo-as-departing-ngani-laumape-omitted-for-waratahs

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    I would have thought Aso was the obvious outside back reserve as he could cover centre and wing. Jules into centre doesn't seem right...

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    @bovidae Is Aso injured? Don't think I've seen him this year.

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    @tim I think he has been playing club rugby.

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    @tim He is playing club rugby in Wellington. Every week. Not injured, just like Toala and Visinia.

    Edited to add that there are rumours that Aso has signed with a Japanese club.

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    Did the Canes publish a list of which players are travelling to Sydney?

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    @duluth said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

    Team management insisted the decision to rest the in-form Laumape this week was made before he told them on Monday night he was heading to France at the end of SRTT.
    

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125103265/super-rugby-hurricanes-unveil-new-midfield-duo-as-departing-ngani-laumape-omitted-for-waratahs

    I could be giving the Hurricanes coaches too much credit here, but they probably had a good idea it was coming, and decided to plan for the future a little, regardless.

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    @bovidae No, they didn't.

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    Happy with the team, however would have rathered Roigard over Taumateine.

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    @tim yeah, I would have had Aso in there before Julian and Patafilo but I guess he's heading overseas. 🙂

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    Hey Lomax, great decision to head to the canes eh?

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    @bones said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

    Hey Lomax, great decision to head to the canes eh?

    Hasn't he started every game? And isn't this most likely just rotation given the Tahs are the worst team in the comp?

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