Brumbies v Chiefs
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<p>I hate to go all conspiracy theorist, but I think the book needs to be thrown at the TMO too. </p>
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<p>Leitch is on the ground, and the ref asks the TMO to look at anything to do with his neck. The TMO can't spot anything. Yet, social media almost instantly spots the choke, the tapping out and the perptrator. How in the fuck did the TMO not see this? What is the TMO paid to do?</p>
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<p>Regardless of all citing procedures etc, an on-field red card has 10x the impact of a post match citing.</p> -
<p>aggravating and mitigating factors can fuck right off, neither are relevant in any way, and by nature allow the biggest amount of leeway to variation.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="569967" data-time="1459856253">
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<p>That's so fucking weak. I'm fucking sick of these external factors changing bans. Strangle someone? Should be 4 weeks whether you are a neck-tattooed bogan fuckwit, or a quiet tree hugging social activist.<br><br>
Genuine remorse? Fuck off. If they thought he could get off the story would have been different (like when he dropped the knee in the world cup).<br><br>
If he was from samoa he would have got a million years</p>
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<p>criminals are always remorseful when they get caught, so remorse is a piss weak mitigating factor.</p> -
<p>"<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">However, taking into account mitigating factors including the player’s early plea, his good character,"</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">His good character??? What the fuck does that even mean? Do the unions rank players on some sort of character scale?</span></p>
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<p><span>Which players have the judiciary decided have bad character?? Do they get an extra week?</span></p> -
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<p>"<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">However, taking into account mitigating factors including the player’s early plea, his good character,"</span></p>
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<p>Early plea? I didn't see him copping to it on the field. That shit is an early plea.</p> -
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<p>"<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">However, taking into account mitigating factors including the player’s early plea, his good character,"</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">His good character??? What the fuck does that even mean? Do the unions rank players on some sort of character scale?</span></p>
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<p>Which players have the judiciary decided have bad character?? Do they get an extra week?</p>
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<p>Based on past rulings I believe it goes:</p>
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<p>White = Good character</p>
<p>Brown = Bad character</p>
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<p>There is also an extra special rating:</p>
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<p>Early plea? I didn't see him copping to it on the field. That shit is an early plea.</p>
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<p>Tana got vilified for not checking to see if BOD was ok after almost killing him....</p> -
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<p>Based on past rulings I believe it goes:</p>
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<p>White = Good character</p>
<p>Brown = Bad character</p>
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<p>There is also an extra special rating:</p>
<p>White SJW = automatically half any potential ban being handed out.</p>
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<p>Don't forget if your name is Martin Leslie and you play for Scotland. 12 weeks.</p> -
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<p>Tana got vilified for not checking to see if BOD was ok after almost killing him....</p>
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<p>And how the hell did Kev escape there?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Don Frye" data-cid="570036" data-time="1459902634"><p>So the Reds prop and Latu didn't miss any games because their ban occurred during the bye and so they "missed" a game for their club.<br><br>
Pocock will "miss" a game for his club as well.<br><br>
How is this still happening in 2016?</p></blockquote>
You are right on Latu and Faagase, but Pocock got 2 games and as they have the bye next week, it is effectively 3 weeks. Read the official statement.<br><br>
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<p>David Pocock has posted a public apology on his website:<br>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Apology</span></span></strong><br>
April 6, 2016<br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Yesterday I faced the judiciary for the first time in my rugby career. I am incredibly disappointed with my actions. I endeavour to play the game I love in a way that reflects the kind of toughness and decency I think rugby can teach us. </span></span><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">On Saturday night I did not live up to those standards, placing Michael Leitch in danger by binding on his neck in a maul. It was not my intention to hurt Michael, but in these sorts of circumstances it is not intention that matters. I am grateful that World Rugby and SANZAAR are concerned about making the game safer for all of us. </span></span><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I would like to take this opportunity to apologise again to Michael. And to apologise to the Chiefs, Brumbies and all those who follow rugby. I'd also like to apologise to my team mates who I will let down over the next few weeks while suspended.</span></span><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Dave</span></span></p>
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I don't belong to the Pocock haters on this forum and I do believe that his apology is genuine.<br>
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I agree that there is little consistency in the judicial decisions and think that, especially in the case of intentional offending (punching someone in the face, dropping a knee on someone's head), punishments are low. I don't think Pocock's offending was "intentional", but it looked "reckless" for an experienced player. Considering the other punishments that have been handed out this season, I think a 3 week/2 SR games ban is okay(ish).</p> -
I just read it. Then I read the comments and I felt sick. Talk about cyber-fellating.<br><br>
Oh David, you are the greatest human being ever. We are truly blessed to walk the same earth as you. -
<p>Get rid of the lawyers and the ex judges that make up these disciplinary panels, they are the ones that are Fcuking it up.</p>
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<p>I've got no problem with a player's disciplinary record being taken into account as a possible mitigating factor. But I have a huge problem with the character and remorse aspects. They are both totally subjective, and firstly, what a player does off the field should have no bearing on an on-field action. Secondly, any wankpuffin can show remorse after the fact, especially when it is something that a sentence is partially judged on. Holy fuck, we see the worst scum do it in the courts on a daily basis.</p>
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<p>I just read it. Then I read the comments and I felt sick. Talk about cyber-fellating.<br><br>
Oh David, you are the greatest human being ever. We are truly blessed to walk the same earth as you.</p>
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<p>A great example of 'doing a Willis'. The whole public flagellation penance thing again.</p>
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<p>Why not make his apology to the victims directly. If he wants to tell his 'fans' he has done that then fair enough but apologising through social media is only for his own emotional appeasement. </p>
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<p>'Look, I have publicly whipped myself. See, I am a good guy really'</p>
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<p>CGW Breakfast were joking that he has probably phoned everyone in the Chiefs catchment area to apologise...</p>
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<p>We shall never know, but had he gotten off, or not even cited, would he still have made the apology?</p> -
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<p>CGW Breakfast were joking that he has probably phoned everyone in the Chiefs catchment area to apologise...</p>
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<p>We shall never know, but had he gotten off, or not even cited, would he still have made the apology?</p>
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<p>Probably not because according to Michael Cheika he didn't know he had even done it. I like Pocock, and don't really think he was trying to choke letich or anything but fuck me reading that apology of his is making it hard to keep my brekky down. Just say sorry I didn't mean to Poey!!!!!</p> -
Those are some impressive crocodile tears. <br><br>
"It was never my attention to hurt him when I grabbed him round the neck and didn't let go until the maul had collapsed."<br><br>
I'll bet those felating the prick online were defending his innocence until he gave his awesome heartfelt apology.<br><br>
Jazz hands. Jazz hands.
