Brumbies v Chiefs

Crucial

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Just seen the highlights reel. 
Classic chiefs tries. 
Don't believe in it myself, but that right there has gotta be what they're talking about when they talk about the game they play in heaven!
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If they can keep dishing up games like that I wouldn't even really care if they won the comp or not. Great entertainment.

ploughboy

cant see how you can grab someone around the neck and hold on for 10/ 15 seconds and not know what you are doing.this is not like a cleanout at a ruck (neck roll) but a attack on the neck/ head area in a maul

hydro11

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It's way too soon to call the Chiefs favourites. Too long to go in the season. As a Crusaders fan I was surprised at our attack vs the Lions. 
I think the title will fall (as usual) to a NZ side, Chiefs or Highlanders (if their key men stay fit) or Crusaders (If the backs can kick on). 
From watching super rugby I think NZ might cream Wales.
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Well, someone has to be favourites. If it isn't the Chiefs, then who? Crusaders and Highlanders do both look good. The only problem is if you don't top your conference then you probably have to go on a trip to South Africa.

hydro11

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Reckless is all. Pocock ain't malicious. I prefer seeing people banned for intent. 
Mann-Rea only got 1 week for punching Oli Kebble square in the face repeatedly.
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He grabs him around the neck and holds on for a good while. You can see Leitch is trying to get himself out of that situation.
 
Mann-Rea was also red carded at the time, which is taken into account.

Crucial

Actually, the more I watch it the more I think Pocock should (but won't) get a decent ban out of this.
 
He had to have known he had a player around the neck and was squeezing hard. The player was even whacking him him to tell him to let go. In a similar situation in a scrum players will even back off if they get a danger call.
 
He not only didn't let go he didn't even relax his hold as the situation got even more dangerous and the maul twisted and collapsed.

Rancid Schnitzel

Maybe he mistook his neck for some mining equipment. 
If rugby was a Yank sport, Pocock would only be subbed on in defence. He does fark all on attack.

antipodean

Pocock's a saint because he hugs trees, does silent clapping on a visual media because deaf people can't work out what the fuck clapping looks like and refuses to put a ring on his girlfriend's finger because the gays can't marry. Ergo any act that looks like he's a dirty fluffybunny on the field is always out of context. In this example he's saved Leitch's life by preventing him from swallowing something...

pukunui

What! Saint pocock surely not. HE deserves a ban for this because it is the latest in a long line of 'accidental' dirty play from him.
IIRC the ref only had a quick look at what was being replayed on the big screen rather than having a proper look through the TMO.
It's a pity because it is one of the times a proper look at an incident would have been justified.

Crucial

I can see Pocock pleading extreme remorse for his sins and having a four week ban reduced to an extra weeks pay

Frye

Re: the Pocock-Leitch incident. 
I remember the tv crew showed an extreme close-up of the maul. Mainly James Tucker in the middle. 
The cynicism is probably not completely unwarranted.

Frye

I'd say two weeks. 
Cranking a guys neck who's trapped in a maul is a grub act. Way worse than punching a guy you've squared up with IMO.

Crucial

<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://assets.stuff.co.nz/video/production/1459626194228-neck grab.mp4'>https://assets.stuff.co.nz/video/production/1459626194228-neck grab.mp4</a>

Siam

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Actually, the more I watch it the more I think Pocock should (but won't) get a decent ban out of this.
 
He had to have known he had a player around the neck and was squeezing hard. The player was even whacking him him to tell him to let go. In a similar situation in a scrum players will even back off if they get a danger call.
 
He not only didn't let go he didn't even relax his hold as the situation got even more dangerous and the maul twisted and collapsed.
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Strongly agree Crucial
 
When Leitch is hitting him, it isn't to draw a penalty or even to hurt Pocock. It's to say "stop man, I can't breathe or my neck is going to get hurt". it's actually the actions of someone acting outside the game 
 
And Mr Pocock, you seem like a decent enough fella who regales that rugby isn't everything in life. Things that make you hmmmm? :think:

Unco

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It's way too soon to call the Chiefs favourites. Too long to go in the season. As a Crusaders fan I was surprised at our attack vs the Lions. 
I think the title will fall (as usual) to a NZ side, Chiefs or Highlanders (if their key men stay fit) or Crusaders (If the backs can kick on). 
From watching super rugby I think NZ might cream Wales.
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Eighth year's the charm?
 
As for Pocock's guillotine on Leitch, that's fucked up and deserves at least 3 or 4 weeks. Doubt they'll do it though.

Toddy

How long did Messam get for his choke hold?

bbarcs

I'd have Pocock banned for life if I could... 
I just don't think he did it on purpose. 
That and most of the Brumbies remaining games are against NZ/Australasian opponents.

broughie

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I'd have Pocock banned for life if I could... 
I just don't think he did it on purpose. 
That and most of the Brumbies remaining games are against NZ/Australasian opponents.
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He had a hold of his neck for 10 seconds at least including while the maul was collapsing which is extremely dangerous. As someone else said intent is not the issue. He should be banned for his stupidity just like any tip tackle where the neck is compromised. You just don't do it ffs.

mariner4life

Watching the replay now. Shit the Chiefs are good. They are just strangling the brumbies

Billy Tell

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Well, someone has to be favourites. If it isn't the Chiefs, then who? Crusaders and Highlanders do both look good. The only problem is if you don't top your conference then you probably have to go on a trip to South Africa.
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Currently, Chiefs are in hot form. But they have scrum issues. And the season is long, with a break for the June internationals. Can they sustain this form at the end of the season, when it counts?
 
I think it's brave to pick anyone as a Super Rugby winner this far out, dat's all I'm saying.

Nepia

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Currently, Chiefs are in hot form. But they have scrum issues. And the season is long, with a break for the June internationals. Can they sustain this form at the end of the season, when it counts?
 
I think it's brave to pick anyone as a Super Rugby winner this far out, dat's all I'm saying.
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Considering the Crusaders are generally always picked as favourites before a ball is kicked it's not really that brave - and the favourite tends to change as the season progresses anyway.

The Silver Fern

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