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    Ineos confirmed

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/124578312/americas-cup-team-uk-confirmed-as-challenger-of-record-now-intrigue-deepens

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    @kiwiwomble waitemata 1.jpg

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    hydra0  /  Aug 19, 2024  /  Racing

    How A Bot Made Team New Zealand Faster and Smarter | Sailing World

    How A Bot Made Team New Zealand Faster and Smarter | Sailing World

    Simulators are now a critical component of every America’s Cup campaign, as are top-level coaches. But coaches for the simulators, too? Yep. The AC is now AI. Helena Scutt explores Emirates Team New Zealand's approach to integrating AI and machine learning.

    How A Bot Made Team New Zealand Faster and Smarter
    Simulators are now a critical component of every America’s Cup campaign, as are top-level coaches. But coaches for the simulators, too? Yep. The AC is now AI.

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    @dogmeat read that yesterday, and it was fascinating.

    Amazing the interaction of digital and physical now - we're seeing it in asset bases; internet of things and senseors will take it to antoher level.

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    could be really interesting, Jimmy has been a good "villain" but we could do with someone new to shake our fists at

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/124590499/americas-cup-sound-the-alarm-bells--alinghi-look-ready-to-return

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    @kiwiwomble I've heard Bertarelli was keen if it was to be hosted in Europe, not so much if Auckland is 'the Home of the America's Cup'

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    @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble I've heard Bertarelli was keen if it was to be hosted in Europe, not so much if Auckland is 'the Home of the America's Cup'

    Probably thinks that it will be easier to buy our team again if it isn't in NZ.

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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    both helmsman thanking the race organisers straight away, nice touch

    So are you on board now? They knew what they were doing re conditions?

    Idiotic comments from someone (not you - that has probably never sailed on the Waitamata) about "sailing indoors" aside, the sailors and the organisers really did know what was best for the event / contest.

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    @snowy i never claimed they didn;t know what they were doing in regards to the rules, i was one of the first to point out that even though we could see them sailing around at decent speed it must be different elsewhere on the course

    never said the organisers weren't doing a good job, merely pointed out the way you described the reasons for calling it off actually sounded like something that would be really interesting to watch and was quite clear that that was purely from the standpoint of a non sailor

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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    was quite clear that that was purely from the standpoint of a non sailor

    Yep, that was clear.

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    the reasons for calling it off actually sounded like something that would be really interesting to watch

    Nope, that is why they called it off. Dogmeat's post did explain it quite well as to why it wouldn't be interesting at all.

    As for the rules, they have a set of conditions that fall within parameters to create a contest and they followed them. Nice work.

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    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    the reasons for calling it off actually sounded like something that would be really interesting to watch

    Nope, that is why they called it off. Dogmeat's post did explain it quite well as to why it wouldn't be interesting at all.

    sorry...are you trying to tell me what i can and cant find interesting?

    dogmeat did give a good explanation of why it wouldn't be interesting...for you

    you seem to struggle to understand people can understand something and still have different opinions

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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    the reasons for calling it off actually sounded like something that would be really interesting to watch

    Nope, that is why they called it off. Dogmeat's post did explain it quite well as to why it wouldn't be interesting at all.

    sorry...are you trying to tell me what i can and cant find interesting?

    dogmeat did give a good explanation of why it wouldn't be interesting...for you

    you seem to struggle to understand people can understand something and still have different opinions

    Of course we can different opinions, but the people who have been doing this for many years don't agree with you as to what makes a yacht race.

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    @snowy which is awesome, never said they had too

    We're allowed to speculate on things we might like to see, we talk about rugby rules all the time...

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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    We're allowed to speculate on things we might like to see, we talk about rugby rules all the time...

    So what do you think are the acceptable wind limits? Variation in direction and speed?

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    @snowy jesus man, i never claimed to be able to write a full set of rules, i just said they way you described shifting winds and changing conditions sounded like it could be interesting to watch

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    this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

    He must be a woman

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    i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

    Spinnaker in the water was replaced by belly in the water. That was pretty damn exciting

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

    I would agree with most of that.

    AC is F1 of yachting though and development of the boats is a part of it. Things change with technology. I like these too:
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    For me having sailed - Optis, Ps, Starlings, Lasers, 2 types of Hobies and then keelers (mostly 1020s), watch the type that you like. The spectacles that you seem to prefer are still available.

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