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@bones said in NH International Rugby:
Come on Scotland, we know you were a bunch of fluffybunnies at the last world cup but that was a temporary thing unlike Ireland, let's see you show you've stepped up a level.
Sadly these lines are right
All too familiar. Scotland, as ever, dangerous when expectation is low, are frustrated time and again when it creeps up high... For all the excitement of Twickenham in round one, there Scotland still reside, in that little niche of theirs just above Italy
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That pretty French try should have been wiped for.offside. the backs who caught the ball were well inside the 10 before the ball crossed the 15m mark.
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@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
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@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
I would need to see that in the laws
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@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
I would need to see that in the laws
Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.
I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.
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@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
I would need to see that in the laws
Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.
I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.
Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.
You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.
That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.
Law 18.36
Once the ball has been thrown in by a team-mate, players who are not participating in the lineout may move forward. If that occurs, then their opponents may also move forward. If the ball does not go beyond the 15-metre line, the players will not be liable to sanction if they immediately retire to their respective offside lines. **Sanction: Penalty** -
@damo said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
I would need to see that in the laws
Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.
I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.
Estupido, as I recall.
You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.
That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.
Law 18.36
Once the ball has been thrown in by a team-mate, players who are not participating in the lineout may move forward. If that occurs, then their opponents may also move forward. If the ball does not go beyond the 15-metre line, the players will not be liable to sanction if they immediately retire to their respective offside lines. **Sanction: Penalty**Frankly I remember the law being clearer than that. The "rewrite" they did of the laws a few years ago was pointless.
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@damo I'm glad I'm not the only one who for some bizarre reason doesn't know that pretty important part of the laws. Be an interesting way to try and catch a defence out too if you're the attacking side, inside backs rush up to get the oppo to rush too, then quickly retreat and see if you can get a pen for them being offside.
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Thanks for that Damo, I retract my comment and it's a beautiful piece of rugby
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@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@damo I'm glad I'm not the only one who for some bizarre reason doesn't know that pretty important part of the laws. Be an interesting way to try and catch a defence out too if you're the attacking side, inside backs rush up to get the oppo to rush too, then quickly retreat and see if you can get a pen for them being offside.
I can't imagine too many refs would award a PK in that case where it's just a clear offside trap. Equity trumps law amongst most rugby refs. I.E. teams that go looking to hoodwink the other team and the ref don't often prosper.
I think the main use these days is for defensive lineouts on the 5m line. If you thrown the ball long the defensive players only need to go 5m whereas the attacking players are back 10m. It is quite an effective tactic to win the ball under no pressure.
Tony Brown has run a lot of attacking moves with a long throw during his time coaching Otago, the Highlanders and for Japan.
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@damo said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
I would need to see that in the laws
Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.
I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.
Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.
You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.
That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.
I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now.
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@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@damo said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
I would need to see that in the laws
Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.
I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.
Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.
You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.
That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.
I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now.
Those who can't play ... ref.
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@damo said in NH International Rugby:
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@damo said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.
I would need to see that in the laws
Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.
I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.
Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.
You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.
That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.
I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now.
Those who can't play ... ref.
On that basis there should be a lot more refs around!
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@stargazer That is a lovely note from Stander. Good on him.
Wonder if the prospect of playing for the Lions against SA was too much for him. He's clearly died in the wool Sith Ifrican who took a job playing for Ireland.
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Beard back in the engine room and Tomos Williams on the bench for Lloyd Williams
France XV unchanged, 3 changes in the replacements
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56437435
France:
Brice Dulin; Teddy Thomas, Virimi Vakatawa, Gael Fickou, Damian Penaud; Matthieu Jalibert, Antoine Dupont
Cyril Baille, Julien Marchand, Mohamed Haouas, Romain Taofifenua, Paul Willemse, Dylan Cretin, Charles Ollivon (capt), Gregory AlldrittReplacements: Camille Chat, Jean-Baptiste Gros, Uini Antonio, Swan Rebbadj, Anthony Jelonch, Baptiste Serin, Romain Ntamack, Arthur Vincent.
Wales:
Liam Williams; Louis Rees-Zammit, George North, Jonathan Davies, Josh Adams; Dan Biggar, Gareth Davies
Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Tomas Francis, Adam Beard, Alun Wyn Jones (capt), Josh Navidi, Justin Tipuric, Taulupe FaletauReplacements:
Elliot Dee, Nicky Smith, Leon Brown, Cory Hill, James Botham, Tomos Williams, Callum Sheedy, Willis HalaholoWales to finish the tournament on time
Us by 11-15
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Potential banana skin for Scotland against Italy
Townsend makes 7 changes, mostly enforced, starting Hogg at 10https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56446925
Scotland:
Maitland; Graham; Jones, Johnson; Van der Merwe; Hogg, Steele
Sutherland, Cherry, Z Fagerson; Skinner, Gilchrist, Ritchie, Watson, M FagersonReplacements:
Turner, Bhatti, Berghan, Craig, Haining, Price, Van der Walt, Harris.Could go horribly wrong
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@mikethesnow That's going to be some battle of the back rows. Pretty evenly matched. I think the key will be how the French half-backs go, it's the only area where I feel they have a distinct edge over your boys, though Jallibert in particular can be a bit hot and cold.
Should be a good match.
