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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    Billy Tell
    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #1817

    @machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    @mofitzy_ said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    @stargazer
    I'm hoping the Moana Pacifika team is largely capped internationals or not NZ-born. Otherwise you are creating another franchise in an already diluted player pool, and weakening other teams in the process.

    Considering that Fiji have their own SR team and have the 6th most registered players by country, and the Tongan and Samoan international teams rely on NZ born players (Madagascar has more registered players than either country), this will be another dilution of our SR teams. There is no way you'll have big name players taking 75%+ pay cuts to play SR. This is just another Auckland based team, taking mostly NZ players, and fans from the blues.

    I would imagine the team will have similar rules to other SR teams, limited to those eligibile to play for a Pacific team. Otherwise how is it a Pacific team? Think about that, that will rule out any capped internationals from other nations, like Kahui for ex, who could be good for the team. The already capped Samoan and Tongan players are on mostly good to excellent money in the NH, so they won't come. So you need a team of players, that haven't had their eligibility captured, that are professionals, or almost, and are SR level. Where are those players? Obviously there will be a few from the islands, but their comps are not anywhere near NPC level. You could do it with locals of you accepted getting spanked for a lot of years and someone had the big pockets to pay for a losing team for those years until hopefully the base had improved. Argentina proved it could be done, but that was one Union and a good player numbers base.

    If it was based in the islands with local players (like the Drua), then it could be different, but I don't think it is. This is sunwolves Mark 2, at least those guys played their home games in Japan.

    Maybe wait and see before being a merchant of doom?

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    Machpants
    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by
    #1818

    @billy-tell said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    @machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    @mofitzy_ said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    @stargazer
    I'm hoping the Moana Pacifika team is largely capped internationals or not NZ-born. Otherwise you are creating another franchise in an already diluted player pool, and weakening other teams in the process.

    Considering that Fiji have their own SR team and have the 6th most registered players by country, and the Tongan and Samoan international teams rely on NZ born players (Madagascar has more registered players than either country), this will be another dilution of our SR teams. There is no way you'll have big name players taking 75%+ pay cuts to play SR. This is just another Auckland based team, taking mostly NZ players, and fans from the blues.

    I would imagine the team will have similar rules to other SR teams, limited to those eligibile to play for a Pacific team. Otherwise how is it a Pacific team? Think about that, that will rule out any capped internationals from other nations, like Kahui for ex, who could be good for the team. The already capped Samoan and Tongan players are on mostly good to excellent money in the NH, so they won't come. So you need a team of players, that haven't had their eligibility captured, that are professionals, or almost, and are SR level. Where are those players? Obviously there will be a few from the islands, but their comps are not anywhere near NPC level. You could do it with locals of you accepted getting spanked for a lot of years and someone had the big pockets to pay for a losing team for those years until hopefully the base had improved. Argentina proved it could be done, but that was one Union and a good player numbers base.

    If it was based in the islands with local players (like the Drua), then it could be different, but I don't think it is. This is sunwolves Mark 2, at least those guys played their home games in Japan.

    Maybe wait and see before being a merchant of doom?

    Where's the fun in that?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Stargazer
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    #1819

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    Bones
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1820

    @stargazer bit of a surprise to see Kirifi there....

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
    wrote on last edited by
    #1821

    do they have link to the full lists?

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
    #1822

    @kiwiwomble it's available on the All Blacks app.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
    wrote on last edited by
    #1823

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300249686/new-zealand-rugby-to-launch-new-super-rugby-under-20s-tournament

    interesting re the u-20 tournament but on a personal level good to see the Highlanders giving some thought to the future

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    Gunner
    wrote on last edited by
    #1824

    Are all matches Saturday/Sunday again this year?

    I miss sitting down, putting my feet up with a couple of coldies and end the week watching Friday night footy.

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    KiwiMurph
    replied to Gunner on last edited by
    #1825

    @gunner huh? the last 2 weeks have had Friday games.

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    Gunner
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #1826

    @kiwimurph fuck really?

    What planet am I on?
    Must have been thinking about Saturday night footy then?

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    replied to Gunner on last edited by
    #1827

    @gunner yeah Saturday last week got moved to Sunday cos of covid.

    it's a mix of Friday/Sat/Sun this year.

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    Gunner
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #1828

    @kiwimurph come to think of it, was it last Friday that both the cricket and rugby were on?

    Got too much going on at the moment and can’t remember one week to the next 🤣

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    Winger
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1829

    @stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    I hope they're right about Pasifika players being keen to return from Europe and Japan, even if it means that they'll earn less.

    It won't happen. It might stop a small number heading overseas though.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1830

    6 games into the season and we haven’t had a close contest yet

    Closest score so far was the first match - Crusaders beating the Highlanders by 13

    SR Results

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    Search every Super Rugby Result since 1996

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    Stargazer
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    #1831

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    KiwiMurph
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1832

    @stargazer Clear and concise comments. Good to see.

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    Bones
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #1833

    @kiwimurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    @stargazer Clear and concise comments. Good to see.

    Yeah just sounds odd when he says "on review" though eh. They were already on review! One thing I didn't consider - did the ref ask the TMO to check the forward pass or did he do that off his own bat?

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  • BonesB Offline
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    Bones
    wrote on last edited by
    #1834

    Hmmm....

    'Neanderthal rugby straight out of the 1950s': Why Super Rugby Aotearoa 'leaves the Six Nations for dead'

    'Neanderthal rugby straight out of the 1950s': Why Super Rugby Aotearoa 'leaves the Six Nations for dead'

    The Six Nations is great for its history and the passion it engenders, not to mention the fact that Scotland periodically lowers a much better team to clinch the Calcutta Cup. The rugby? Not so much.

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    African Monkey
    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #1835

    @bones Haha written like a typical NZ rugby fanboy who thinks we're by far and away the best in the world where no one else comes close. Our comp is a very average standard this year to the point where I think some of the awful Blues sides from 2004-2019 could compete for 2nd place.

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    KiwiMurph
    replied to African Monkey on last edited by
    #1836

    @african-monkey *3rd

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