AB all time pro-era XXIII
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@mariner4life said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Woodcock
Fitzy
Brown
Whitelock
Retallick
Kaino
Richie
Zinny
A Smith
DC
Lomu
Nonu
Bunce
Wilson
CullenPiss easy. Would beat any other nation by 30 points
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I think the only debatable positions are THP, centre and right wing
THP, Brown, Hayman, Franks
Centre, Bunce, Umaga and Conrad Smith
Right wing, Wilson, Howlett and Ben SmithMight need to go to a vote al la the cricket XI's @Tim
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@Gunner said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Right wing, Wilson, Howlett and Ben Smith
no disrespect, but two of those guys are very very good, while one was something special
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@Gunner said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
@Tim said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Starting forwards
Everything easy to pick except the props.
1 Woodcock
2 Fitzpatrick
3 Hayman
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 McCaw
8 Brooke9 Smith
10 Carter
11 Ralph
12 Nonu
13 Umaga/C Smith
14 Wilson/Howlett/B Smith
15 CullenI’m a bit triggered but the left wing being nicknamed cart horse cos cart horses are strong.
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@mariner4life said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Woodcock
Fitzy
Brown
Whitelock
Retallick
Kaino
Richie
Zinny
A Smith
DC
Lomu
Nonu
Bunce
Wilson
CullenPiss easy. Would beat any other nation by 30 points
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Shit, I think I agree with you 100%. Something is wrong ....
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@mariner4life said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Woodcock
Fitzy
Brown
Whitelock
Retallick
Kaino
Richie
Zinny
A Smith
DC
Lomu
Nonu
Bunce
Wilson
CullenPiss easy. Would beat any other nation by 30 points
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Only change I'd consider would be Conrad for Bunce, but I'd not argue too hard with it.
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@taniwharugby said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
@mariner4life said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Woodcock
Fitzy
Brown
Whitelock
Retallick
Kaino
Richie
Zinny
A Smith
DC
Lomu
Nonu
Bunce
Wilson
CullenPiss easy. Would beat any other nation by 30 points
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Only change I'd consider would be Conrad for Bunce, but I'd not argue too hard with it.
Bunce, Umaga, Smith - TBH I wouldn't quibble over any of those three being selected.
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Sam Whitelock is a great player. But no way is he an all-time great. He never dominates like Retallick. When he doesn't play you don't see that much difference -- unlike most of the players listed. When Rettalick is absent a team really notices.
I would pick Ian Jones a million times over him. Lineout master and superb athlete.
Actually, I'd pick Brad Thorn over him too. Not flashy, but a much more physical presence.
There's a few locks who played for money that I suppose aren't pro era like Gary Whetton that are much better too. Andy Haden for you oldies.
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@Chester-Draws Downvote
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Ian Jones is so overrated
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@Chester-Draws said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Sam Whitelock is a great player. But no way is he an all-time great. He never dominates like Retallick. When he doesn't play you don't see that much difference -- unlike most of the players listed. When Rettalick is absent a team really notices.
I would pick Ian Jones a million times over him. Lineout master and superb athlete.
Actually, I'd pick Brad Thorn over him too. Not flashy, but a much more physical presence.
There's a few locks who played for money that I suppose aren't pro era like Gary Whetton that are much better too. Andy Haden for you oldies.
Please see here (timestamp 1:25.17):
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@mariner4life said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Bunce
Close, I know, but I'd have Conrad ahead of Bunce. His rugby smarts were on another level.
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@sparky said in AB all time pro-era XXIII:
Could have easily picked Carl Hayman, M.Jones, Z.Brooke, A.Mehrtens, B.Barrett, Umaga, SBW and F.Bunce. Fantastic players all. We really have been had some amazing players in the last 25 years.
Mehrts is a stretch over DC.
BB for the bench though.
