RWC 2023
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@ARHS said in RWC 2023 draw:
Looks lopsided to me with France in second tier and Wales in top one. Within 12 months France may be world number 1. Wales third tier currently.
Yeah, and why these idiots shouldn't be doing it three years out.
A lot changes in a year, let alone three. Just a change of coach can drop you down the rankings in a hurry. -
The draw will take place at 12:30 pm CET today at the Palais Brongniart in Paris.
Rugby World Cup France 2023 will be contested by 20 teams, of which 12 are directly qualified by virtue of a top-three place in their respective Rugby World Cup 2019 pools. These teams will be seeded based on World Rugby Men's Rankings as of 1 January, 2020 and placed into three bands of four teams (bands one, two and three). The remaining eight teams will come through the regional qualification process and will be allocated into bands four and five based on relative strength. Except for France (Band 2) which will be drawn first as host country, all teams in each band will be randomly drawn to determine the pools they go into, the first drawn being placed in Pool A, the second in Pool B, the third in Pool C and the fourth in Pool D. The first band to be drawn will be five, with the top four seeds in band one last. The match schedule, with date, location and time of all games will be announced towards the end of February 2021. -
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@KiwiMurph said in France 2023:
3rd straight RWC pool with Wales, Australia and Fiji.
Dream pool for English rugby scribes. Up against their two favourites.
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So we know what the opening game is going to be ... Hosts versing the biggest draw cards ...
Or do they go hosts verse a guaranteed win (I've started the count down on the hilarious Foster post).
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I think pool A Quarter Finals are vs Pool B. So NZ will need to beat France in pool play to avoid the Boks in the Quarters!
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in France 2023:
I think pool A Quarter Finals are vs Pool B. So NZ will need to beat France in pool play to avoid the Boks in the Quarters!
Pretty tough alright! France looking seriously awesome at the moment. And at home.
NZ looking seriously shit at the moment. And not at home.
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@MajorRage said in France 2023:
Pretty tough alright! France looking seriously awesome at the moment. And at home.
NZ looking seriously shit at the moment. And not at home.
A heavily hyped France going into a game at home against the ABs rarely turns out well for France.
So much water left to run under the bridge, at this stage in the last cycle we had just put 50 points on the Boks in Durban.
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@MajorRage On another forum I read that If NZ finish second in the pool and then can sneak past the Boks then their S/F should be against the winner of a likely Q/F between Argentina and Oz. Don't know if that is accurate but if so would that be an easier path to the final than an Ireland Q/F then likely England S/F ?
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Debateable. Ireland is certainly weaker based on most recent form for either team. Though that may not mean a whole lot come 2023. -
@mofitzy_ Yeah Ireland without Sexton and probably Murray won't be the same team as they were a few years ago. We have an ok draw, a much better draw than SA. They have an incredibly tough quarters no matter how they perform in their group. Looks like their RWC luck has finally run out.
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@rotated said in France 2023:
@MajorRage said in France 2023:
Pretty tough alright! France looking seriously awesome at the moment. And at home.
NZ looking seriously shit at the moment. And not at home.
A heavily hyped France going into a game at home against the ABs rarely turns out well for France.
So much water left to run under the bridge, at this stage in the last cycle we had just put 50 points on the Boks in Durban.
Absolutely! Most bookies still have us as favourites.
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@nzzp @Billy-Webb @Snowy RWC’s are magic for bonding with your Dad, brothers and mates. Look forward to sharing them with my boys.
They’re also ace for running into former teammates randomly. Nothing like rushing a few more frothies in before hitting the stadium because you bumped into old mate from 3-legged rocking horse RFC 3rds and he’s hit perfect yarn spinning form.
But an under appreciated joy are the bullshit sessions with random okes you run into who could’ve been your club mates (but weren’t because of accidents of time and geography.)
The English toffs sat behind you who also decided to hit the 07 final after the dust settled on the quarters. That you can’t help torturing by agreeing that Cueto’s toe never touched the line. The passionate kiwis who were satisfyingly quiet in the opening quarter of the 2019 AB Bok game, then annoyingly, justifiably mouthy as the ABs take their chances and then somehow more annoyingly gracious after the whistle.
Asterix and Obelix using all their Gallic charm to provoke the only true rudeness you see from any Japanese bar staff. And who you kept running into, more pissed each time. A random bunch of Aussies that mystifingly includes Adam Frier, as much a Wallaby as any club’s 2nds hooker impatiently waiting for the well-connected 1sts hooker to finally retire, or for the selection panel to take their heads out their arses.
Plenty wrong with our game, but it’s got a fair bit right with it too.
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@cgrant said in France 2023:
Japan to upset England, like they did in 2015 against SA and in 2019 against Ireland.
love it if that happened! But then they get sent our way don't they?
Also, France again? Really? World Rugby love the chance of an upset I reckon. 7 times in 10 tournaments is insane
