Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November

Paekakboyz

@Darren Winger will never change

Oh, you meant the AB squad. As you were!

pukunui

Sooooo, when is the team named?

mariner4life

@pukunui said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

Sooooo, when is the team named?

yeah! fucking hell, i've got some outrage all saved up to throw at some usual suspects.

Derpus

So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

mariner4life

@Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

the comp deserves a decider

nzzp

@mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

@Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

the comp deserves a decider

not sure we 'deserve' to win eitehr - although in pro sport, there is no 'deserve'

Yeahtheboys

Moody
Taylor
Laulala
Tuipolotu
Whitelock
Savea
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Mo’unga
Clarke
Goodhue
ALB (rather the other way around tho)
Reece
B Barrett
Coles
Hodgeman
Lomax (due to limited options)
Vaai
Akira
Weber
McKenzie
Reiko

Yeahtheboys

I think Frizell gets the chop

TJ has to get dropped for lack of performance otherwise squad culture goes to shit

Jordie hasn’t been bad, but not great so Sevu should get a go.

We need decent tight heads, with Ofa gone we’re clutching at straws

Tuipolotu gets his last chance before getting dropped from the 23 for next year

Hooroo

@Yeahtheboys said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

Moody

Taylor

Laulala

Tuipolotu

Whitelock

Savea

Cane

Sotutu

Smith

Mo’unga

Clarke

Goodhue

ALB (rather the other way around tho)

Reece

B Barrett

Coles

Hodgeman

Lomax (due to limited options)

Vaai

Akira

Weber

McKenzie

Reiko

Ikira starts if Frizzy is dropped? Shirley?

Yeahtheboys

@Hooroo I think Akira would be a bigger impact off the bench than Sotutu, also sotutu seems to shit himself at the end of the game so maybe let him play while pressure is off then take him off for Akira?

NTA

@Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

I think another double-digit-margin Argie win with no bonus point would be infinitely more amusing.

gt12

Team named and the sauce was good.

https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-team-named-for-second-investec-tri-nations-test-against-argentina/

gt12

Joe Moody (49)
Dane Coles (73)
Nepo Laulala (28)
Scott Barrett (39)
Samuel Whitelock (121)
Akira Ioane (1)
Sam Cane (73) - captain
Ardie Savea (48)
Aaron Smith (96)
Richie Mo'unga (21)
Caleb Clarke (4)
Jack Goodhue (17)
Anton Lienert-Brown (48)
Jordie Barrett (22)
Beauden Barrett (88)
Codie Taylor (56)
Karl Tu'inukuafe (16)
Tyrel Lomax (5)
Patrick Tuipulotu (34)
Hoskins Sotutu (4)
TJ Perenara (68)
Rieko Ioane (33)
Will Jordan (1)

bayimports

@gt12 said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

Team named and the sauce was good.

sauce is always good

Tim

Sotutu and Ioane should be starting.

Hope the game is won by the time Perenara comes on. That's a player who really needs to cut the shit out on field.

taniwharugby

8 and 14 are 2 positions a bit disappointed in.

Bovidae

Entirely predictable, and disappointing.

Yeetyaah

Reeeeeeeeeeee can we stop with Jordie on the wing

Tim

Gregor Paul: The real reason behind the All Blacks' petulance

If the All Blacks are honest, this whole business of individuals losing emotional control which has been so evident in the Tri Nations, began during Super Rugby Aotearoa.

Maybe it was the pent up frustration of lockdown coming out or the sense that a New Zealand-only competition, run and refereed by New Zealand administrators and officials, was a safe place to indulge in multiple histrionics on the field without fear of recrimination.

There was definitely something at work, almost compelling players – many senior All Blacks – to behave in a petulant and volatile manner where they challenged referees openly and with hostility; where they stamped their feet and screamed when things didn't go their way and where they reacted physically to any mild sense of injustice.

Remember Brad Weber and Aaron Smith punching it out in Hamilton? Or the Chiefs crowding referee Brendon Pickerill at Eden Park after he awarded the Blues a penalty instead of the visitors a try?

Or what about TJ Perenara being told in the first game that he was no longer, even as co-captain, allowed to engage with referee Mike Fraser who'd had enough of the verbal onslaught.

The signs were all there in Super Rugby that plenty of players were finding it hard to stay on a steady emotional keel – that there was no ability to turn the other cheek.