Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November
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What made the loss even worse is the constant lecturing/talking down by Gardner coming through the ref mic.
I don’t have too many issues with the penalties he awarded other than the Jordie Barrett one which was costly given it provided 30+ free metres of field position, but his whole approach to how he talks to the players on both sides is appalling. Not sure what he’s trying to prove out there but it comes across terribly.
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We should have been playing you lot this weekend when you're ripe for the picking.
Fucking COVID
I'll get my coat
Still at least you know how it feels to be #WelshForADay
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@MiketheSnow the sad thing (from our point of view) is you’re not even kidding.
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@ACT-Crusader I think everyone goes through this. A point at which your opponents catch up or pass you, and you have to rebuild. Is it game plan or players or leadership. Foster has just started his coaching reign. The World Cup showed we had problems. Not every game but when a team gets it right. He may may do what is required - let’s see what happens by the end of the tournament.
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@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@ACT-Crusader I think everyone goes through this. A point at which your opponents catch up or pass you, and you have to rebuild. Is it game plan or players or leadership. Foster has just started his coaching reign. The World Cup showed we had problems. Not every game but when a team gets it right. He may may do what is required - let’s see what happens by the end of the tournament.
Disagree mate, it’s same old, same old from the last 3 or so years... continuity at its worst.
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@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@ACT-Crusader I think everyone goes through this. A point at which your opponents catch up or pass you, and you have to rebuild. Is it game plan or players or leadership. Foster has just started his coaching reign. The World Cup showed we had problems. Not every game but when a team gets it right. He may may do what is required - let’s see what happens by the end of the tournament.
Fucken hell, we have had Foster on the Fern the entire time.
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@MiketheSnow said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
We should have been playing you lot this weekend when you're ripe for the picking.
Fucking COVID
I'll get my coat
Still at least you know how it feels to be #WelshForADay
And just like on the 6th of October 2007, on a train to Cardiff, I mocked the losing Aussies and wondered how far they'd fallen...thus, I did it to your mob this morning...only to find myself in the same pity lifeboat
You got decent players and aninspiring shit coaching staff too huh?
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@Siam said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@MiketheSnow said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
We should have been playing you lot this weekend when you're ripe for the picking.
Fucking COVID
I'll get my coat
Still at least you know how it feels to be #WelshForADay
And just like on the 6th of October 2007, on a train to Cardiff, I mocked the losing Aussies and wondered how far they'd fallen...thus, I did it to your mob this morning...only to find myself in the same pity lifeboat
You got decent players and aninspiring shit coaching staff too huh?
On a rolling cycle every decade.
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@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@ACT-Crusader I think everyone goes through this. A point at which your opponents catch up or pass you, and you have to rebuild. Is it game plan or players or leadership. Foster has just started his coaching reign. The World Cup showed we had problems. Not every game but when a team gets it right. He may may do what is required - let’s see what happens by the end of the tournament.
You mean in the last game of the season against a team that we've been 95% sure of beating for the last 250 million years?
That's the game where we judge Fozzie's performance?
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@Derpus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Gunner meh. The message is clear as day. Contact with the head isnt on and they dont give a fuck why.
What are the NFL payouts at? 700m USD? Tell the flog not to headbutt fluffybunnies instead.
Huh?
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@MiketheSnow said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Still at least you know how it feels to be #WelshForADay
We blame Deans. You blame Pivac.
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@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@chimoaus I wouldn’t even say I’m a supporter. Just think they are trying things and still haven’t got it right.
Yep, the problem is even blind Freddy can see they haven't got it right, the question is how long you wait. I have no doubt Foster will take us through 2021 and he will be judged on those performances, so for his sake he better fix this sinking ship quick.
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In boxing they say styles make fights. The abs ran into a style that is just super awkward to play against.
Since at least 2012 the All Blacks have been a pain in the ass to play against cause you just know that they would score at least 2 tries out of fucken nothing, normally from turnover or an arsey kick. Today the pumas made almost no errors that the all blacks could capitalize on. The Pumas, unlike aus in the first three bled tests, really managed to put pressure on the All Black ruck ball.
I also felt that in the middle 40 the pumas showed more energy around the park. They were better in the ruck and when a ball fell free they made the 50-50 balls 80-20 to them.
The All Blacks have a good line out and maul, but their scrum looks like a weakness. They have a number of good second channel runners (Ardie, Sotutu, Coles) but needed Tuipoluto and the props to do more in close. Defence is fine, but never looked like getting turnovers. Kicking game is not the strength it has been (I thought the Puma full back was shakie and should have been tested more). Discipline was poor and dumb, summed up by Coles getting that penalty reversed after Gardner just warned both teams about that shit.
Also to add, it's not clear who the superstars additions are going to be in this WC cycle. Clarke was spectacular on debut, but nothing yet since. Sotutu looks very promising and Jordan was great in SRA. Ideally you'd want a couple more stepping up to replace B Smith, SBW and Read already gone and A Smith, Whitelock, Moody, B Barret, Coles and maybe Retallick not looking likely they for 2023.
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@Unite said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Are there any decent journalists that are going to ask some pointed questions of these guys at the next few press conferences?
Foster just deflects to congratulating the other team, saying how well they played etc. It wasnt his fault, it was just the other team played better. It is very hard to win when the other teams just keep playing so well....