Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Great to see the Wallabies continue their long standing tradition of winning the games that don't really matter.
“Aussie rugby is back”
😎
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With the compressed schedule I guess we were always going to see some of our key players rested.
I don’t expect big scores and near perfect rugby (anymore), but there are things that are critical to AB success and regardless of how up and down we perform, the moments before halftime is when we tend to make the opposition pay. And tonight it was very disappointing when we are camped down their end and we fail to put score board pressure on. TJP’s influence in those passages was greater than preferred and we just didn’t capitalise.
Aussies would’ve been buoyed by that given how many times we have scored on them in the 30-40 minute stage of many test matches.
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I would like to compliment Australia-ok they weren't as consistently flat as us.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
With the compressed schedule I guess we were always going to see some of our key players rested.
I don’t expect big scores and near perfect rugby (anymore), but there are things that are critical to AB success and regardless of how up and down we perform, the moments before halftime is when we tend to make the opposition pay. And tonight it was very disappointing when we are camped down their end and we fail to put score board pressure on. TJP’s influence in those passages was greater than preferred and we just didn’t capitalise.
Aussies would’ve been buoyed by that given how many times we have scored on them in the 30-40 minute stage of many test matches.
All they had to do was to continue with the pick and drive when they were inches away from the tryline and TJ decides to pass it out to the backs without a clear overlap. Dumb play.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
With the compressed schedule I guess we were always going to see some of our key players rested.
I don’t expect big scores and near perfect rugby (anymore), but there are things that are critical to AB success and regardless of how up and down we perform, the moments before halftime is when we tend to make the opposition pay. And tonight it was very disappointing when we are camped down their end and we fail to put score board pressure on. TJP’s influence in those passages was greater than preferred and we just didn’t capitalise.
Aussies would’ve been buoyed by that given how many times we have scored on them in the 30-40 minute stage of many test matches.
He really was the captain of the headless chook stuff. Super frustrating and feel sorry for BB at 1st five......
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@DMX said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Fair to say that those who have been crying and moaning for BB at 10 and JB at 15, I think that argument has been put to rest. Still don’t get what Karl T. Is doing at this level.
He's average but who else do we currently have?
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@Tim said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Perenara has been a big turd off the bench since the Lions tests. Garbage idiot focussed on yelling at the ref.
I think this sums up quite succinctly my last 4 years worth of posts on this subject
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
TJP's form has gone the same way Cowan's did, right off a fucking cliff and he's become a liability. He's always been inconsistent, showing glimpses of being world class, but has never able to put back to back performances together. It just seems to be consistently bad now. Weber is a fucking liability as well though so we definitely have a gap to fill there.
Weber is probably not the long term answer and has his obvious limitations. But, I do feel comfortable that, if entrusted with the role, he could be trusted to come and perform the role - i.e., clear the ball quickly, keep or even increase the pace of the game and not completely lose his head. He might even be able to kick better. Unfortunately, that's the very low bar our backup halfback now has to clear. Out of the options available, he's probably best placed to perform that role.
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Chris said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
That is more what I expect from a Foster coached team
Headless chook stuff.
Long couple of years coming up.Tbh, we weren't much different under Shag over his last 2-3 years.
Is this because Fozzie was actually in charge the whole time? Is this what they mean by "continuity"...?
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Here is a post of mine from last year's RWC after the Canada match - it remains as true today as ever
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool
:@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool
:@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool
:@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool
:@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool
:Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Weber perhaps?
Game changed when he came on great pass and runs great support lines would not have thought that was a chance to take TJs spot before the WC but Webber was very good.
I agree. I can't see how anyone thought he was anything other than excellent when he came on (at least compared to TJP). He kept it simple, did his job, got the ball out quickly, backed-up well and, importantly, didn't try to do too much himself. Based on that performance, I'd feel much more confident having him to come on and guide us home in the last 10 mins of a RWC knockout match.
Really?!?! You would have Webber supplant TJP, who at times has challenged A Smith hard for the starting job this year, based on 35 minutes against Canada? You set your bar much lower than me
I actually set it quite high for halfbacks, but my metrics might be different to others. TJP is a great rugby player with a good "rugby brain", hence why he scores so many tries by running really good support lines. My problem is that's not what he should be doing - he's a halfback not an openside flanker. His pass is shit, his kicking is shit, he's selfish and greedy, his option-taking is often poor, he plays for himself more than the team and - crucially - he's not calm or smart enough to be entrusted with such a key role (at which he's not particularly proficient technically), particularly in such a crucial match. I'd much rather have Weber there in such moments, because at least you know he'll pass fast and accurately to the guys who should be taking control (e.g. Mo'unga and Barrett) rather than trying to be a hero and do it all himself.
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So we were looking good, red card changed things then we went from possession football to a defensive game because of the numbers. Once it was evened up why did we resume what appeared to be our plan and was working? With Akira and Ofa off we lost some bulk. Foster should have at least made early subs to get us back on track, fresh legs and by subbing Savea for Akira earlier. Savea and Cane played full games. That is stupid. Vaai could have come on earlier. From what I have watch of him he has not disappointed or appeared out of his depth. We don’t have to sub in the 70th minute all the time.
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Well, that's that. Probably a reflection of the two sides right now - Aus slightly better at home playing a R+R AB outfit that gets disjointed and in a broken game.
Ioane Brothers looked a class above. well done mum and dad Ioane,
Red cards ... well I'm shaking my head. Will watch both again today, but they are game wrecking decisions that seem to be dished out randomly.
TJP - since Lions 3 where he flapped around at the base of the game winning scrum and let Lions steal the ball because he was seagulling, his form has been on the slide. He i sa truely remarkable rugby player, but not playing well as a halfback at the moment. Like Laumape, shining at Super but not really transitioning to Tests.
Winner: Aussie Rugby
Losers: ABs, and rugby watchers (with cards up the wazoo).The Barrett Boys seem to be having consistent brain explosions that cost us test matches. Scott should get himself banned from Aus, and feel better about things as a result. Two trips in Black, two losses due to cards. FFS.
Overall, the lack of mental strength is a concern for me. We keep making poor decisions - it feels like 07 could creep up again (although we aren't as dominant as that side)
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Ah nice - they just showed some footage of Cane presenting Slipper with a bottle of plonk for his 100th.
Think that's something the GOAT started. Great to see Cane carrying on the tradition.
