Robbie Deans to potentially replace Joseph
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Wow, I'm flabbergasted there is a province before country lot. I love HB, love the Magpies, but the ABs are first, Magpies 2nd, clubs and then Super.</p></blockquote>This is a tough one. I think I go club, ABs, Northland.<br><br>
Buy then it gets tricky if I think about which I'd prefer to win more this year, Joe Morgan Memorial Trophy, Rugby Championship or The Whatever The Fuck It Is Now Cup (NPC).<br>
Because the last time Northland won anything that wasn't a fucking kitchen utensil was maybe close to 20 years ago, I think I'd take the NPC win. ABs win the Rugby championship 9 times out of 10, and my club won the comp back to back in 2011/2012, so I could live with waiting another year to win that again.<br>
Oh how I dream of a golden era for the Taniwha. Alas, I fear when my son is old enough to listen to my stories of when we beat the star studded Vikings in the 2nd division final, he won't believe me - it'll just be too unbelievable that Northland could ever have won anything. -
For me it's ABs first, second and third. I get behind my Super and Domestic teams but when they lose I don't cry. When the ABs lose I have an emotional break down.
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If it would guarantee AB success for all time I would be happy for the Canes, Wellington, 7s team, Black Caps, Olympic team and All Whites to never win a single thing again.
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<p>Me thinks people gettin too blase about our recent conquests</p>
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<p>What if there's a johnny foreigner in your local side or (shudder) an ocker</p>
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Is odd actually, I am more emotionally invested in Northland, so get more upset when they lose (I know right) but get over it cos, well....ABs I guess having the expectation and it being fulfilled brings complacency and if the ABs were losing more it'd start grating too. But then I guess I also actually attend more Northland games, I suppose if I was able to attend more AB games too, I still recall the walk from Twickers in 99...
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I am supportive of the idea of Robbie Deans returning to coach in NZ. The poor quality of the sides coached by Cotter and Schmidt suggest to me they are a miles away from being good enough to coach the All Blacks. If Steve Hansen really is going to quit in 2017, then a wiser, older Robbie Deans could well be the best man to take over.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="563554" data-time="1457560984"><p>If Steve Hansen really is going to quit in 2017, then a wiser, older Robbie Deans could well be the best man to take over.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Anyone but Rennie :)</p>
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<p>Think of this way - if Rennie coaches the ABs he won't be coaching the Chiefs, who have rather owned the Crusaders during Rennie's tenure
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If the rumours about the strained relationship between Deans and Tew are true, he's no chance of coaching the ABs again.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="563624" data-time="1457572835"><p>Think of this way - if Rennie coaches the ABs he won't be coaching the Chiefs, who have rather owned the Crusaders during Rennie's tenure :)</p></blockquote>
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<p>Why? For pissy shark type reasons of Chiefs hate or because you don't think he's a good coach.</p>
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<p>Mainly to get a reaction from blokes like you. :)</p>
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<p><strong>Mainly to get a reaction from blokes like you.</strong> :)</p>
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<p>.....................And I'd prefer Deans</p>
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<p>If the rumours about the strained relationship between Deans and Tew are true, he's no chance of coaching the ABs again.</p>
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<p>I'd like to think the trainwreck of the Wallabies followed by the emergence of some really good guys getting international experience with second tier sides (Cotter, Joseph, Schmidt) and a second wave of guys surely one of which will be of the standard required within 10-15 years (Tana, Mauger, Brown, Gibson, Blackadder, Evans, Dowd) will keep Deans out of the AB seat.</p>
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<p>It won't be him & Tew don't get on, it'll be we don't need him as we have better options. Same reason John Mitchell will never coach the ABs again & Gatlands time has probably passed. </p> -
<p>From reading Carter's book, while Deans is good at identifying and nurturing young talent, he's not that good at managing and utilizing experienced players. Considering the progress the All Blacks have made in player accountability and contribution, I think it would be a step backwards.</p>
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<p>Yeah ,I always found it interesting that McCaw much preferred Henry over Deans when the whole country was turning on Henry, </p>
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<p> doesnt care too much for others opinions that he works with , its his way or the highway ,which causes him to fall out with too many people , was pretty much what McCaw said in his book </p>
