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Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @Gunner said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    But seriously if this is what succession looks like... hmmm

    I just got the job as NZRU mail "boy" (I use that term loosely) and fully expect to be AB coach within a few years. Applications for assistants are welcome.

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I am less concerned with the personnel than I am with how we are playing.

    Usually we are the front runners with innovation and adapting, yet we have been stale for the past 2-3 years.

    We failed to adapt to the rush defence, which we were exposed to in the Lions tour, the rest of the world saw us struggle, so they all adapted as a way to put us under pressure.

    The rest of the world has caught us, and our tactics and game plans are being exposed, while we have a team of very good players, we are lacking any generational ones like we had with DC, McCaw, Nonu, SMith...Cane is still learning the ropes as a leader at this level while bedding in whatever new ideas The Brewers are trying to instill.

    The current innovators are sitting in the Wallaby coaches box and break dancing after Super Rugby titles!.

    Funny how some spoke of Gatland coming in after Fozzie!

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    @taniwharugby except we overcame the rush defence in lions 1, using 9 a lot, and smashed them. Tbh we only just lost 2 with a red card, and were on the way to smacking them in 3 if savea didn't have tits for hands.

    But yes our innovation, dry powder, had been proved ineffective, but foster is still sniffing the same stuff

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Gunner said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Gunner said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    It's ok guys, it's all part of the coaching succession plan.

    They're just getting McLeod or Plumtree ready to sit in the big chair in 4 years time....

    look, i've never understood those people who use social media to send evil hateful shit to people in the public sphere

    but a post like this makes me tilt my head to the side and say "hmmmmm"

    🤨

    Unsure if that’s a dig at me or not...

    I don’t think my post was in any way evil or hateful... More stating a fact while highlighting a bit of an issue.

    But seriously if this is what succession looks like... hmmm

    dude it was a joke aimed at how your post made me feel like sending you a sort of "i hope you die in a fire" type message.

    Scott McLeod, AB coach makes me want to renounce my citizenship

    Yea all good, just wasn’t sure - hense the question 👍🏼

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    @taniwharugby agreed

    and i understand the whole, "we can explain what we're doing" idea, dont want the opposition to know all our secrets....but its not exactly engaging is it, and its a little concerning if our big ideas rely so much on surprise

    i'd be much happier if we had a game plan we were happy to just tell the world "this is what we'd doing...come and stop us"

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    @Machpants and then after the Lions we forgot how to deal with it.

    Crotty was a key part of our side then too, he got injured in one game when we looked like running riot?

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @taniwharugby agreed

    and i understand the whole, "we can explain what we're doing" idea, dont want the opposition to know all our secrets....but its not exactly engaging is it, and its a little concerning if our big ideas rely so much on surprise

    i'd be much happier if we had a game plan we were happy to just tell the world "this is what we'd doing...come and stop us"

    aaahhh we're doing the same shit we have been doing for 2 years. Even a thick coach like, say, Ian Foster, has probably worked it out by now.

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    Whitelock was ruled out early in the week.

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    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Whitelock was ruled out early in the week.

    look at that still. look at it!!

    is that the face of a bloke who is switched on and knows exactly how to run a high performance program?????

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    dont want the opposition to know all our secrets....

    Our secrets seem to be:
    Lack physicality, don't commit numbers to rucks, put everybody out of position (particularly mid field where it really counts defensively), unbalance the loosies, lack impact off the bench with fresh fast players, wings that are slow...

    Fuck that was going to be a long post. I shall now go back to the grumpy old man one.

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    he got injured in one game

    Crotty, really? One game............

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    @Snowy one game of the Lions series then..fluffybunny 😉

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    Our lineout looks pretty vulnerable. A skinny rookie lock, no targets at 7 or 8, and an unproven six (is he any good as a target?).

    Sotutu should be starting at 8, and would give an option.

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    @Tim said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Our lineout looks pretty vulnerable. A skinny rookie lock, no targets at 7 or 8, and an unproven six (is he any good as a target?).

    Sotutu should be starting at 8, and would give an option.

    Pretty sure I’ve seen Savea taking plenty of lineout ball?

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    @Tim Savea was used in the lineout last week. IIRC the first throw was to him.

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    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    he got injured in one game

    Crotty, really? One game............

    #9, #9, #9

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Ive seen Michael Hooper win ball as well, doesn't mean he's an option except as the surprise. Generally doesn't work twice in a week.

    Still, if can win the ball at 2, Smith's pass makes it still good attacking ball.

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    Is Sotutu a good lineout target?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @mariner4life according to ESPN stats, George Bridge won a lineout...although I assume a quick throw counts for a lineout win

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