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Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18

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    @gt12
    6 Tuipulotu
    7 Coles
    8 Cane

    The bruiser, the nuggety game breaker and the difference maker.

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    @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @gt12
    6 Tuipulotu
    7 Coles
    8 Cane

    The bruiser, the nuggety game breaker and the difference maker.

    In terms of body weight to height ratio, isn’t Lomax the ideal number 8? Closest to Hayman we’ve seen in awhile.

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    @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @gt12
    6 Tuipulotu
    7 Coles
    8 Cane

    The bruiser, the nuggety game breaker and the difference maker.

    In terms of body weight to height ratio, isn’t Lomax the ideal number 8? Closest to Hayman we’ve seen in awhile.

    That would leave us without a specialist hooker.

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    forgive me my slumbers and this possibly crazy suggestion. If he is not currently injured, is Boshier an actual possible replacement at 6? His tackling stats seem pretty good, gets around the park, great workrate, and he would be a relatively new ingredient as far as the Wallabies, but not in terms of Cane.
    NB I simply don't understand why they put DM at 15 ahead of JB when they could have played specialist wingers in position.

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    @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    Our game isn’t built kick chasing or enough workload as we don’t have ball enough, so when we do have it, we need our wingers to be strike weapons. Plus, as we live without the ball, they have to be safe under the high ball. The only player currently going around who meets those needs is Clarke.

    Will Jordan has a quick look to see who scored the most tries in SRA and thinks, "Fuck, I must be shit under the high ball"! 🙂

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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    Our game isn’t built kick chasing or enough workload as we don’t have ball enough, so when we do have it, we need our wingers to be strike weapons. Plus, as we live without the ball, they have to be safe under the high ball. The only player currently going around who meets those needs is Clarke.

    Will Jordan has a quick look to see who scored the most tries in SRA and thinks, "Fuck, I must be shit under the high ball"! 🙂

    I didn't watch him much but CF Snr says he spent a significant amount of time on the wing. He's a big fast unit, Fozzie obviously thinks the ABs are awesome enough not to need one of the form outsides of SRA

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    @canefan You'll enjoy watching his tribute video, then. Especially because Wellington and the Canes seem to feature in it quite frequently! 🙂

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    @Chris-B He looks like all the things we need. Big, strong, fast, skilled, knows how to find the line. Bridge is a lucky boy, he has Caleb Ralph level fortune right now

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    @canefan Let's hope Fozzie at least releases him for Ta$man this weekend! 🙂

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    I can see why Fozzie doesn't like Will Jordan - he's inexperienced. I'm sure Fozzie will pick him once he's got 20 international caps under his belt.

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    @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Bones

    Fair point. Clarke plays in 14.

    What’s next?

    You're not getting it, Foster wants specialists.

    Clarke is locked in at 12.

    No, the solution is to put Ardie there. It’s time.

    Now we're getting somewhere, I guess Clarke can shuffle out. So we're getting close to completing the Fozzie specialist backline:

    9 DMac
    10 Perenara
    11 Beauden
    12 Savea
    13 Clarke
    14 Jordie
    15 Bridge.

    About right?

    Utterly ridiculous. Julian Savea is well past it.....

    Oh, you mean Ardie ? As you were

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    Jordan isn't a left winger though.

    Fullback of rightwing.

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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    Jordan isn't a left winger though.

    Fullback of rightwing.

    Out of position? Perfect!

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    @PecoTrain said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Chris-B

    I can see why Fozzie doesn't like Will Jordan - he's inexperienced. I'm sure Fozzie will pick him once he's got 20 international caps under his belt.

    🙂

    In fairness to Fozzie, I'm not convinced that rushing young guys into the starting line-up is the way to go. There's been a few that we've ruined over the years by throwing them in the deep end. Ideally, you ease them into the team with games against a few lesser lights (this year, the Argies).

    But, you also need plenty of people who offer significant offensive threat so that they can't just heavily mark a few players.

    Thinking about Sunday's team, I reckon we telegraphed plenty of plans to Rennie - who doubtless knows plenty about our players anyway.

    Mo'unga is going to take it to the line - smash him - hard and often.

    Bridge and Jordie on the wings - they're going to kick and contest. Make sure we get plenty of blockers in.

    Rieko - he's a green centre, run some deception at him.

    But, overall, our main attack weapons were Richie and Rieko - the others are more glue guys (DMac's a bit of a wild card). Not enough firepower.

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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    In fairness to Fozzie, I'm not convinced that rushing young guys into the starting line-up is the way to go. There's been a few that we've ruined over the years by throwing them in the deep end. Ideally, you ease them into the team with games against a few lesser lights (this year, the Argies).

    Foster clearly went for experience, and minimal disruption to the backline after BB's withdrawal. You can question whether the right experienced players were picked in each position but that is a different argument.

    Those calling for Jordan to start only need to look at the Crusaders. When Ennor and Havili were fit, he wasn't starting for them either.

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    @No-Quarter A few too many rookies and a bit much trust in those Blues forwards for my taste. 🙂

    Lose this one and Fozzie is ringing Courier Post to find the cost of mailing large cups to Oz.

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    @Bovidae Yeah - they were easing him in. He was in the rotation, but it was significant that he missed the game vs the Blues.

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    @gt12 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Bones

    Ha ha. Not in my top five All Blacks, but top five favorite players.

    I’m a Waikato fan who played 13/12 and went through HS while he was playing. After uni, I then lived in Japan and was here from 2004 - 2009 when he was one of the better players running around the Top League.

    He was awesome and I forgive him for not playing for TA sports.

    But he’s a bit of a crap defensive coach from what we’ve seen so far.

    His hot girlfriend used to live next door to my mates, and she'd often change with the curtains wide open. That's my main memories of him.

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    @Chris-B

    Ha ha, good point. Although, he's really a fullback and looked pretty ropey defending out on the wing. Probably no worse that Beauden though, so in he goes!

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    I do prefer the mix of starting a couple of newbies with backup experience on the bench though. Provides the opportunity to have a cool untired head out there in the closing stages. Also that if the newbie is finding it tough you can switch them out.

    I'd like to see Whitelock slide into that role with Vaii getting a start. Would put the heat on PT to step up as well.

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