All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11)
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@Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
DMac for me ... just rewatched the first half and he saved our bacon a bunch of times so he gets a vote and the haters can hate.
He served up a try to Daugunu though. So many guys that played really well but made crucial mistakes.
Went with Ofa, Whitelock, Cane. Was struggling for the third though (Ofa).
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@Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
DMac for me ... just rewatched the first half and he saved our bacon a bunch of times so he gets a vote and the haters can hate.
He served up a try to Daugunu though. So many guys that played really well but made crucial mistakes.
Went with Ofa, Whitelock, Cane. Was struggling for the third though (Ofa).
Agree with this, some just get their mistakes focussed on more than others, hater.
I may have overlooked Whitelock's shift as he was just getting on with his job where as Patty T was being rocks and diamonds.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
DMac for me ... just rewatched the first half and he saved our bacon a bunch of times so he gets a vote and the haters can hate.
He served up a try to Daugunu though. So many guys that played really well but made crucial mistakes.
Went with Ofa, Whitelock, Cane. Was struggling for the third though (Ofa).
Agree with this, some just get their mistakes focussed on more than others, hater.
I may have overlooked Whitelock's shift as he was just getting on with his job where as Patty T was being rocks and diamonds.
Whitelock put in a typical Whitelock performance. Unfortunately, we didn't have Brodie there doing Brodie things with him
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Anyone not voting for Cane can GTFO.
I'm shocked that Moody doesn't have more votes. He was a machine on defence today. I would like to see more run metres out of him and Ofa, but since we hardly had the fucking ball, I can't really blame them for that.
After that, I think we have multiple options - from his very brief body of work, I think Clarke showed he belongs at this level and can be a weapon. Terrible selecting is the only thing him not starting showed.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Anyone not voting for Cane can GTFO.
I'm shocked that Moody doesn't have more votes. He was a machine on defence today. I would like to see more run metres out of him and Ofa, but since we hardly had the fucking ball, I can't really blame them for that.
After that, I think we have multiple options - from his very brief body of work, I think Clarke showed he belongs at this level and can be a weapon. Terrible selecting is the only thing him not starting showed.
Good point. It was actually annoying how little we used our muscle throughout the match to carry. I'm sure Whitelock had about 5 times as many carries as Pat T, which is just arse about face. I thought we actually started to use our forwards much better after the 80th minute, but even then we did the idiotic thing of giving the ball to Karl for the carry instead of someone better suited for it.
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@junior said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Anyone not voting for Cane can GTFO.
I'm shocked that Moody doesn't have more votes. He was a machine on defence today. I would like to see more run metres out of him and Ofa, but since we hardly had the fucking ball, I can't really blame them for that.
After that, I think we have multiple options - from his very brief body of work, I think Clarke showed he belongs at this level and can be a weapon. Terrible selecting is the only thing him not starting showed.
Good point. It was actually annoying how little we used our muscle throughout the match to carry. I'm sure Whitelock had about 5 times as many carries as Pat T, which is just arse about face. I thought we actually started to use our forwards much better after the 80th minute, but even then we did the idiotic thing of giving the ball to Karl for the carry instead of someone better suited for it.
the problem is, more than half of our selected forwards are actually no good at carrying in to the teeth. We are relying on too few to do the heavy lifting. 3 of the 4 props, 1 80 minute lock, and two of the loose forwards are next to useless if you are trying to smash your way through the gain line.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@junior said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Anyone not voting for Cane can GTFO.
I'm shocked that Moody doesn't have more votes. He was a machine on defence today. I would like to see more run metres out of him and Ofa, but since we hardly had the fucking ball, I can't really blame them for that.
After that, I think we have multiple options - from his very brief body of work, I think Clarke showed he belongs at this level and can be a weapon. Terrible selecting is the only thing him not starting showed.
Good point. It was actually annoying how little we used our muscle throughout the match to carry. I'm sure Whitelock had about 5 times as many carries as Pat T, which is just arse about face. I thought we actually started to use our forwards much better after the 80th minute, but even then we did the idiotic thing of giving the ball to Karl for the carry instead of someone better suited for it.
the problem is, more than half of our selected forwards are actually no good at carrying in to the teeth. We are relying on too few to do the heavy lifting. 3 of the 4 props, 1 80 minute lock, and two of the loose forwards are next to useless if you are trying to smash your way through the gain line.
That is a major problem if we want to see our ABs take it up the guts then!! We had a notable lack of penetration in the forwards yesterday
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@canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@junior said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Anyone not voting for Cane can GTFO.
I'm shocked that Moody doesn't have more votes. He was a machine on defence today. I would like to see more run metres out of him and Ofa, but since we hardly had the fucking ball, I can't really blame them for that.
After that, I think we have multiple options - from his very brief body of work, I think Clarke showed he belongs at this level and can be a weapon. Terrible selecting is the only thing him not starting showed.
Good point. It was actually annoying how little we used our muscle throughout the match to carry. I'm sure Whitelock had about 5 times as many carries as Pat T, which is just arse about face. I thought we actually started to use our forwards much better after the 80th minute, but even then we did the idiotic thing of giving the ball to Karl for the carry instead of someone better suited for it.
the problem is, more than half of our selected forwards are actually no good at carrying in to the teeth. We are relying on too few to do the heavy lifting. 3 of the 4 props, 1 80 minute lock, and two of the loose forwards are next to useless if you are trying to smash your way through the gain line.
That is a major problem if we want to see our ABs take it up the guts then!! We had a notable lack of penetration in the forwards
yesterdaynearly every test since 2018FTFY
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@junior said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Anyone not voting for Cane can GTFO.
I'm shocked that Moody doesn't have more votes. He was a machine on defence today. I would like to see more run metres out of him and Ofa, but since we hardly had the fucking ball, I can't really blame them for that.
After that, I think we have multiple options - from his very brief body of work, I think Clarke showed he belongs at this level and can be a weapon. Terrible selecting is the only thing him not starting showed.
Good point. It was actually annoying how little we used our muscle throughout the match to carry. I'm sure Whitelock had about 5 times as many carries as Pat T, which is just arse about face. I thought we actually started to use our forwards much better after the 80th minute, but even then we did the idiotic thing of giving the ball to Karl for the carry instead of someone better suited for it.
the problem is, more than half of our selected forwards are actually no good at carrying in to the teeth. We are relying on too few to do the heavy lifting. 3 of the 4 props, 1 80 minute lock, and two of the loose forwards are next to useless if you are trying to smash your way through the gain line.
That is a major problem if we want to see our ABs take it up the guts then!! We had a notable lack of penetration in the forwards
yesterdaynearly every test since 2018FTFY
Yokohama
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@Machpants said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Struggling to find a third
Gus?
I voted before looking at the results.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@junior said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Anyone not voting for Cane can GTFO.
I'm shocked that Moody doesn't have more votes. He was a machine on defence today. I would like to see more run metres out of him and Ofa, but since we hardly had the fucking ball, I can't really blame them for that.
After that, I think we have multiple options - from his very brief body of work, I think Clarke showed he belongs at this level and can be a weapon. Terrible selecting is the only thing him not starting showed.
Good point. It was actually annoying how little we used our muscle throughout the match to carry. I'm sure Whitelock had about 5 times as many carries as Pat T, which is just arse about face. I thought we actually started to use our forwards much better after the 80th minute, but even then we did the idiotic thing of giving the ball to Karl for the carry instead of someone better suited for it.
the problem is, more than half of our selected forwards are actually no good at carrying in to the teeth. We are relying on too few to do the heavy lifting. 3 of the 4 props, 1 80 minute lock, and two of the loose forwards are next to useless if you are trying to smash your way through the gain line.
The other problem is there was no variation/subtlety to the ABs attack. For most of the game they stand a forward/pod out at first receiver and biff it to him and expect him to make metres. Finally at the very end they started showing some variation (e.g. pick and drive, short side etc) and got reward.
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@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Who's voting for Clarke? Dude was good but he was only on the field for 18 minutes.
me!
He was eye catching; in hindsight I'd vote for Moody. Clarke showed up the shitty selections, and made an impact. And dropped a ball of course, but made an impact
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@nzzp said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks MOTM v Aus (Oct 11):
Who's voting for Clarke? Dude was good but he was only on the field for 18 minutes.
me!
He was eye catching; in hindsight I'd vote for Moody. Clarke showed up the shitty selections, and made an impact. And dropped a ball of course, but made an impact
Moody getting votes is a fucking prblem. We were so bad a guy who scrums okay without dominating, offers basically zero in attack, and makes lots of safe, but not dominant tackles, is among our best 3 players. He's a role player who is there to make sure we don't lose. His best contribution was holding back slipper for our 2nd try.