RIP Martin Crowe
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And fuck up a huge event that had been planned for months and cost millions?<br><br>
I respectfully disagree.<br><br>
Funerals I've found are about the attendees and their process of dealing with their grief.<br><br>
Attendance or otherwise at a funeral is a personal choice and made for many and varied reasons. Expectation of the media and public to publicly bare your emotions shouldn't be one of them. Pre-existing commitments however...<br><br>
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<p>Just read that article, Boo, and I agree.</p>
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<p>People grieve in their own way, and I can imagine there will be many glasses raised in a variety of locations tonight.</p>
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<p>Martin was an international sportsman and commentator. He would understand better than anyone, that even though it sucks arse to miss something important, commitments are commitments. Besides, I'd say he knew exactly who his closest friends and loved ones were and how they felt. Also, who might jump on a bandwagon.</p> -
<p>Wonder if the author has attended every wedding he's been invited to, or if he's ever had to miss a funeral...</p>
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Being in the UK for a few years I had to make decisions on what events back home I would make a special trip for. Funerals never made the list. The person is already gone I would rather spend positive time with people still here and tribute to lost ones lives in my own way. Its personal choice and this reporting is repugnant, I see another stuff headline about Russell Crowe not making it..getting pretty damn sick of stuff.co.nz
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<p>I don't follow cricket but my old man was asking if I'd seen anything in the media from his brother because if there has been anything he missed it. Anyone spotted anything?</p>
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<p>Jeff? no havent heard a thing about or from. Couple of articles about Russ.</p>
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<p>Jeff? no havent heard a thing about or from. Couple of articles about Russ.</p>
<p>Jeff obviously keeps a low profile these days.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I'm not sure how close they are but even though he knew this was coming you can't grieve in advance so he's probably not in the mood to talk. My brother drives me nuts but if I lost him I'd be a wreck.</p> -
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<p>Yeah, I'm not sure how close they are but even though he knew this was coming you can't grieve in advance so he's probably not in the mood to talk. My brother drives me nuts but if I lost him I'd be a wreck.</p>
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Can't find the article, but I read he was officiating a game in Bangladesh. Doubt Martin would have had a problem with that. I assume he'll be back for the funeral.
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<p>Saw some pics on Twitter, they held a minute's silence before the game he was match referee for - everyone stood out in the middle and wore black armbands. He was stoic, head bowed, but fuck it must have been hard.</p>
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<p>Also saw a shitload of tweets saluting him for carrying on despite the awful news. Get the impression Jeff is held in pretty high regard as an official.</p> -
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<p>Yeah, I'm not sure how close they are but even though he knew this was coming you can't grieve in advance so he's probably not in the mood to talk. My brother drives me nuts but if I lost him I'd be a wreck.</p>
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<p>Aside from the Mark Nicholas article (where I guess Jeff encouraged him to post the letter Martin sent to the two of them), there was the moment of silence before the Asia Cup game he officiated:</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.cricket.com.au/news/jeff-crowe-12-hours-match-referee-martin-crowe-death-new-zealand-brendon-mccullum-guptill/2016-03-04'>http://www.cricket.com.au/news/jeff-crowe-12-hours-match-referee-martin-crowe-death-new-zealand-brendon-mccullum-guptill/2016-03-04</a></p>
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<p>No-one's mentioned it but Rosco and Guppy gave their thoughts yesterday:</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/story/978681.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/story/978681.html</a></p> -
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<p>Aside from the Mark Nicholas article (where I guess Jeff encouraged him to post the letter Martin sent to the two of them), there was the moment of silence before the Asia Cup game he officiated:</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.cricket.com.au/news/jeff-crowe-12-hours-match-referee-martin-crowe-death-new-zealand-brendon-mccullum-guptill/2016-03-04'>http://www.cricket.com.au/news/jeff-crowe-12-hours-match-referee-martin-crowe-death-new-zealand-brendon-mccullum-guptill/2016-03-04</a></p>
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<p>No-one's mentioned it but Rosco and Guppy gave their thoughts yesterday:</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/story/978681.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/story/978681.html</a></p>
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<p>Where Rosco mentioned at Leeds last year Hogan said if he passed, "don't come back for the funeral"</p>
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<p>Not right to tell people you've never met how to grieve</p> -
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<p>Yeah, I'm not sure how close they are but even though he knew this was coming you can't grieve in advance so he's probably not in the mood to talk. My brother drives me nuts but if I lost him I'd be a wreck.</p>
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<p>I heard an old interview with Martin through the week after his death, replayed on radio sport , </p>
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<p>And he spoke about Jeff and said they werent close as kids , used to fight a lot , and even as adults in the national side they weren't as close as brothers should be , </p>
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<p>But have since patched up their differences ,</p>
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<p>but I was a little surprised by it to be honest , reading between the lines, it didnt sound like their relationship was great </p> -
<p>I don't think there is anything too troubling about the article the headline after all is pretty spot on</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Choosing golf over Martin Crowe's funeral not a good look</blockquote>
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<p>It's not calling out anyone in particular, but for two former captains, two former colleagues and several who double as ex-teammates skipping out to play golf doesn't make for a good look. It just doesn't. As a collective unit.</p>
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<p>I don't think it's worth vilifying anyone for individually - these are guys who often missed child's births/birthdays and countless other family engagements as players and they obviously want to keep long-made commitments. Plus given the nature of Martin's illness there was plenty of time for him to make his peace with others and make his wishes known. So who are we to judge.</p>
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<p>But I do hope all those that want to attend (including Guppy and Taylor overseas) are given encouragement and the opportunity to attend.</p>
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<p>It does not surprise me that Fox would drop everything at the last minute for something like that (I wouldn't be surprised if he organised his own replacement for the event too). Top bloke.</p> -
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<p>I heard an old interview with Martin through the week after his death, replayed on radio sport , </p>
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<p>And he spoke about Jeff and said they werent close as kids , used to fight a lot , and even as adults in the national side they weren't as close as brothers should be , </p>
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<p>But have since patched up their differences ,</p>
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<p>but I was a little surprised by it to be honest , reading between the lines, it didnt sound like their relationship was great </p>
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<p>I'm not. Just cos you're brothers doesn't mean you're best mates. The Waughs hardly exuded warmth when seen together.</p> -
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I don't think there is anything too troubling about the article the headline after all is pretty spot on<br><br><br><br><br>
It's not calling out anyone in particular, but for two former captains, two former colleagues and several who double as ex-teammates skipping out to play golf doesn't make for a good look. It just doesn't. As a collective unit.<br><br>
I don't think it's worth vilifying anyone for individually - these are guys who often missed child's births/birthdays and countless other family engagements as players and they obviously want to keep long-made commitments. Plus given the nature of Martin's illness there was plenty of time for him to make his peace with others and make his wishes known. So who are we to judge.<br><br>
But I do hope all those that want to attend (including Guppy and Taylor overseas) are given encouragement and the opportunity to attend.<br><br>
It does not surprise me that Fox would drop everything at the last minute for something like that (I wouldn't be surprised if he organised his own replacement for the event too). Top bloke.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The problem is they are at the golf as a collective unit. If only 1-2 were going I'm almost sure they would have attended the funeral and the organisers would have been able to find someone to step in. But they don't have a shit show of doing that for the 6-7 cricketers who are committed to the event. As RS said, Fox was one of Crowes best mates so that's a different conversation.</p>
