All Blacks Tests 2020
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants but no easy games like RWC as you build into it, know its same for all...gonna be interesting
I think that the Arg and SA games, at the start esp, will be easy. They'll be so undercooked
The South African based Boks will have 3 domestic games, most likely an in-house game when in camp and two tests in the RC before they play us. Their NH based players have been playing since last month. I don't think they will be as undercooked as many are suggesting.
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@akan004 I think they will, they'll be coming from all over the place, with really little time to sort out with a new coach. ABs will have SRA > M10 hit outs >camps > NZ tests. That's a much better position. I also think that SA (if they come, I think they won't) and Arg will really struggle to get their NH stars. Release periods do not count quarantine, so they'll be joining 2 weeks after the RC starts. NH clubs are more than happy to force their SA stars to play in EU travel during week to RC to play the next two weekends, and force them to come back for the stand down week in the RC during normal times. They won't be letting them out early.
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Comforting to see such strong Christian values, and reverence for the birth of baby jesus still alive and thriving in NZ. 🙂
None of this "we'll have an extra special Christmas when daddy gets home a few days later" nonsense. The 25th it is!
I would have thought a job that makes millionaires of sparsely educated 20 year olds might demand a few peculiar sacrifices.😗
One Christmas in one unusual year? Oh well.There's no getting away from it, the modern pro footballer is dance monkey dance. It's the only way the money comes in.
Fair dues whatever each player decides though👍
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@Machpants Fair point you make about their NH based players. So they may be slightly undercooked in the first game against us but I think they will be fine for the second one in week 4. Losing Pollard and their two 1st choice locks is going to be the biggest issue for the Boks imo.
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@Bones said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Siam am I right in thinking a match payment is ~$12k? Merry xmas!
IIRC the assembly fees ($7500) were one of the first things to go when NZR tightened the purse strings. The situation could have (quietly) changed again.
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https://amp.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/iwhpjm/frans_malherbe_has_had_a_productive_lockdown/
Is Malherbe still a Bok?
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@Bones said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Fuck it, those that want to go home for Xmas can. If we need to select more players, select AB qualified players in Aus.
I'm in!
Pretty sure @mariner4life could be coerced. So that's the selection problem at 5 and 12 solved.
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@voodoo said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Bones said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Fuck it, those that want to go home for Xmas can. If we need to select more players, select AB qualified players in Aus.
I'm in!
Pretty sure @mariner4life could be coerced. So that's the selection problem at 5 and 12 solved.
Welllll you say that...sounds like it might still be a problem.
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@voodoo said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Bones said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Fuck it, those that want to go home for Xmas can. If we need to select more players, select AB qualified players in Aus.
I'm in!
Pretty sure @mariner4life could be coerced. So that's the selection problem at 5 and 12 solved.
Nearly booboo'ed this post.
I'm available as front row cover.
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The two Bledisloe Cup matches between Australia and New Zealand, hosted in New Zealand, will be refereed by non-neutral referees, with New Zealander Paul Williams taking charge of the first match on October 11 and Australia’s Angus Gardner, another former World Rugby referee award recipient, refereeing the second on 18 October.
The approach was agreed with the support of the respective unions and their coaches. Appointments for The Rugby Championship will be made in due course. Newly-appointed chairman of the selection committee Graham Mourie said: “This has been a difficult year for society and sport, and therefore these appointments are an important milestone in returning our sport back to normality with much-needed and anticipated Test rugby.
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I'm a bit shocked at the reaction to a religious festival. I had very few Christmas at home when I was flying, like many other jobs. You just don't have any choice. Cook a turkey on boxing day, or New Years eve, whenever. In 20 years I probably had 6 actual Christmas days at home.
I chose a job that involved travel and being away at times...
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@Snowy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
I'm a bit shocked at the reaction to a religious festival. I had very few Christmas at home when I was flying, like many other jobs. You just don't have any choice. Cook a turkey on boxing day, or New Years eve, whenever. In 20 years I probably had 6 actual Christmas days at home.
I chose a job that involved travel and being away at times...
I'm an atheist but I love Xmas. Xmas Eve is great, then Xmas morning is magic with young kids. For my wife's side of the family, its also one of only 2 days of the year that everyone makes the effort to get together. The kids play with their cousins for hours, you can't replace that with a Boxing Day turkey.
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@voodoo said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Snowy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
I'm a bit shocked at the reaction to a religious festival. I had very few Christmas at home when I was flying, like many other jobs. You just don't have any choice. Cook a turkey on boxing day, or New Years eve, whenever. In 20 years I probably had 6 actual Christmas days at home.
I chose a job that involved travel and being away at times...
I'm an atheist but I love Xmas. Xmas Eve is great, then Xmas morning is magic with young kids. For my wife's side of the family, its also one of only 2 days of the year that everyone makes the effort to get together. The kids play with their cousins for hours, you can't replace that with a Boxing Day turkey.
Yep, same. The religious aspect is not relevant to me at all. It's morphed into a family holiday.
I had a job that involved travel, and I missed things like my son's first steps. It also put a massive strain on my partner, so I changed jobs. People being flippant about it's only a few weeks, do you want our players to make the same decision?
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@voodoo said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Snowy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
I'm a bit shocked at the reaction to a religious festival. I had very few Christmas at home when I was flying, like many other jobs. You just don't have any choice. Cook a turkey on boxing day, or New Years eve, whenever. In 20 years I probably had 6 actual Christmas days at home.
I chose a job that involved travel and being away at times...
I'm an atheist but I love Xmas. Xmas Eve is great, then Xmas morning is magic with young kids. For my wife's side of the family, its also one of only 2 days of the year that everyone makes the effort to get together. The kids play with their cousins for hours, you can't replace that with a Boxing Day turkey.
I am the same. Nothing to do with religion but everything to do with family. So if the NZ govt could give my family a quarantine exemption to allow them to fly in from Australia that would be great.
For me the issue is less about them being home on xmas day and more about SANZAAR giving NZRU the middle finger by going ahead and scheduling a test when they knew it was a requirement that they get home on particular date.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
The two Bledisloe Cup matches between Australia and New Zealand, hosted in New Zealand, will be refereed by non-neutral referees, with New Zealander Paul Williams taking charge of the first match on October 11 and Australia’s Angus Gardner, another former World Rugby referee award recipient, refereeing the second on 18 October.
Here are the full list of match officials for those tests.
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@pukunui said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
For me the issue is less about them being home on xmas day and more about SANZAAR giving NZRU the middle finger by going ahead and scheduling a test when they knew it was a requirement that they get home on particular date.
Yep. While there was a bit of anger directed at RA a few pages ago about this, isn't this SANZAAR's fault?
While neither national organisation has covered itself in glory, they simply cannot be compared to the mind-boggling incompetence SANZAAR displays time after time after time.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
The two Bledisloe Cup matches between Australia and New Zealand, hosted in New Zealand, will be refereed by non-neutral referees, with New Zealander Paul Williams taking charge of the first match on October 11 and Australia’s Angus Gardner, another former World Rugby referee award recipient, refereeing the second on 18 October.
Sweet jesus,really? He's a terrible referee.
It will be interesting to see what effect the different application of the laws regarding the ruck have on subsequent weekends.