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  • BonesB Offline
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    @Nepia said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Bones i liked Fakatava when we got to see him last week, fast, hope we're tapping him up long term

    Ioane is overrated, lucky we have gatland

    Are you serious? Ioane is way better than Gatland. He needs to change his name to Josh Johns so that the he doesn’t get muddled up with the Ioane brothers in the minds of their detractors. 😄

    Joane is fine. And we're just having a dig at @booboo who has Trask ahead of him.

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    @Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Nepia said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Bones i liked Fakatava when we got to see him last week, fast, hope we're tapping him up long term

    Ioane is overrated, lucky we have gatland

    Are you serious? Ioane is way better than Gatland. He needs to change his name to Josh Johns so that the he doesn’t get muddled up with the Ioane brothers in the minds of their detractors. 😄

    Joane is fine. And we're just having a dig at @booboo who has Trask ahead of him.

    Oh my bad, I Ferned it completely.

    Also what’s Booboo smoking?

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    @Nepia said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Nepia said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Bones i liked Fakatava when we got to see him last week, fast, hope we're tapping him up long term

    Ioane is overrated, lucky we have gatland

    Are you serious? Ioane is way better than Gatland. He needs to change his name to Josh Johns so that the he doesn’t get muddled up with the Ioane brothers in the minds of their detractors. 😄

    Joane is fine. And we're just having a dig at @booboo who has Trask ahead of him.

    Oh my bad, I Ferned it completely.

    Also what’s Booboo smoking?

    Same thing @reprobate is I think!

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    More work experience for Pickerill. 🤣

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    Ok I'll admit it.

    Ioane is a dead set long term All Black. Everyone thinks so.

    Has to be selected.

    I do not think he is at all just a capable Super Rugby player.

    And I do not include him in a category like Brendon Leonard or Eliot Dixon.

    More like all those Safer 10s whose names I can't remember.

    ...

    More seriously he just hasn't moved me to thinking he's All Black material. Last year he was the 3rd best 10 playing. Which he was, and the 3WM decided a second choice 9 who hardly ever played the position was a better option when Ioane was the only option last year.

    Thus year he's Behind me Black for me.

    And in the slightly longer term I see more upside in Trask than I do in Ioane.

    But I'm smoking shit.

    (I also thought Larkham wouldn't amount to much ... so what do I know.)

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    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

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    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

    He and Mounga have been taking defence lessons from Mehrtens.

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    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

    I would say those aspects would put him ahead of Barrett.

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    @antipodean said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

    He and Mounga have been taking defence lessons from Mehrtens.

    Hadn't noticed that about him - is he high up in the missed stats then?

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    @antipodean said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

    He and Mounga have been taking defence lessons from Mehrtens.

    Bit harsh on Mo'unga who makes most tackles, but there is an issue about NZ 10s and wings that their defence is weak in comparison with their 6 Nations peers.

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    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Mo'unga who makes most tackles

    Again, not something I've noticed. Frizzel especially loves picking him out.

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    @Bones Beauden Barrett was a crosskicking maestro for the Canes.

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    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    was

    Yes.

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    @antipodean said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

    He and Mounga have been taking defence lessons from Mehrtens.

    I think that's the rule isn't it? BB used to take lessons from Mehrts, then he actually realised he was a decent size and then improved in that area.

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    Mehrts used to avoid tackles while the current 1st 5s resemble doormats.

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    @Bovidae said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Mehrts used to avoid tackles while the current 1st 5s resemble doormats.

    I didn't say Mehrts was a good coach.

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    Highlanders v Hurricanes: Saturday 15 August, 7:05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin

    Referee: Brendon Pickerill

    Assistant Referee 1: Mike Fraser

    Assistant Referee 2: James Doleman

    TMO: Chris Hart

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    @Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @antipodean said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

    He and Mounga have been taking defence lessons from Mehrtens.

    Hadn't noticed that about him - is he high up in the missed stats then?

    Mo'unga being a bad tackler is a myth; and he's not playing behind a Rolls Roys pack anymore, either. Here are some stats (based on ESPN stats):

    Tackles made Missed tackles Tackle success rate x rounds of SRA starting at:
    Black 22 3 88% 5 games starting at 10, 2 at 22
    Mo'unga 48 9 84.2% 7 games starting at 10
    Jordan 15 3 83.3% 5 games starting at 15, 1 at 14 and 1 at 23
    M Hunt 35 10 77.8% 5 games starting at 10, 2 at 15
    J Ioane 10 3 76.9% 2 games starting at 10, 1 at 22
    B Barrett 24 9 72.7% 5 games starting at 15, 2 at 10
    Cruden 38 15 71.7% 4 games starting at 10, 3 at 22
    J Barrett 12 6 66.7% 5 games starting at 15
    McKenzie 20 11 64.5% 8 games starting at 15
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    @Stargazer

    Nice post.

    Jordan has done a better job on defense than it sometimes looks.

    One thing he really needs to work on are turnovers. From my reading of the same stats, he conceded 12 turnovers!

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    @Stargazer said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @antipodean said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @sparky said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    Josh Ioane's passing and kicking make him the 3rd best AB 10 IMHO.

    He and Mounga have been taking defence lessons from Mehrtens.

    Hadn't noticed that about him - is he high up in the missed stats then?

    Mo'unga being a bad tackler is a myth; and he's not playing behind a Rolls Roys pack anymore, either. Here are some stats (based on ESPN stats):

    Tackles made Missed tackles Tackle success rate x rounds of SRA starting at:
    Black 22 3 88% 5 games starting at 10, 2 at 22
    Mo'unga 48 9 84.2% 7 games starting at 10
    Jordan 15 3 83.3% 5 games starting at 15, 1 at 14 and 1 at 23
    M Hunt 35 10 77.8% 5 games starting at 10, 2 at 15
    J Ioane 10 3 76.9% 2 games starting at 10, 1 at 22
    B Barrett 24 9 72.7% 5 games starting at 15, 2 at 10
    Cruden 38 15 71.7% 4 games starting at 10, 3 at 22
    J Barrett 12 6 66.7% 5 games starting at 15
    McKenzie 20 11 64.5% 8 games starting at 15

    I'd be wary of quoting statistics without context (and we all know the Professor's thought about them).

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