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  • MN5M Online
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    @Snowy said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:

    Average in the case of an opener is actually a telling statistic

    Yeah more so than other positions, but who they play their cricket for is important too given that %50 ish of their matches will be in home conditions. Morning on day one in England is probably a bit more difficult than day one in India. Day 5 India is a different thing with a turning ball but the openers may not bat that day.

    As an opener there's also statistically far less chance of getting cheeky not outs to pad the average that other batsmen get. Not taking anything away from them as they're all legends of the game but Kallis, Chanderpaul, S Waugh and Border all got heaps ( over 40 ) to help get the numbers up.

    That being said I often reckon Matthew Hayden doesn't quite get the respect he might deserve given he had a bit of a flat track bully reputation.

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    Fast bowlers have had good results recently


    bowling averages.png

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29269215/why-greatest-age-fast-bowling-60-years

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    @Duluth said in Other Cricket 2020:

    Fast bowlers have had good results recently


    bowling averages.png

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29269215/why-greatest-age-fast-bowling-60-years

    How do they have ball by ball data from the first quarter of that graph? I'd love to see it!

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  • MN5M Online
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    @Duluth said in Other Cricket 2020:

    Fast bowlers have had good results recently


    bowling averages.png

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29269215/why-greatest-age-fast-bowling-60-years

    Must be cos NZ have had not one, not two but THREE class pace bowlers all playing at once instead of Hadlee at one end and some shitty medium pacers at the other.

    But seriously, interesting stats, never thought the period of the late 70s, 80s and early 90s would be bettered.

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    I raised this earlier, there are some cracking attacks around at the moment. And we tend to lump players from the past together even if they weren't actually around at the same time.

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    Lack of sport on TV (clearly) so been watching some ODI retrospective. Now, I know this won’t be popular with all but they was a section on the recent CWC. For a British audience so very much England centric. It was a bit more than just the game itself, it went into the emotions and confusion surrounding the Super Over and the aftermath. Really interesting and showed the guys in a very human way. Several of them were very regretful of how NZ lost.

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    CricInfo and BBC Sport have picked their current World Test XI's in the last week.

    Info's was picked by four of their commentators and the BBC was a public vote

    CI
    Sharma
    Karunaratne
    Williamson
    Smith
    Kohli
    Stokes
    de Kock
    Cummins
    Ashwin
    Rabada
    Boult

    BBC
    Sharma
    Warner
    Smith
    Williamson
    Kohli
    Stokes
    de Kock
    Cummins
    Starc
    Bumrah
    Anderson

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  • MN5M Online
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    @mariner4life said in Other Cricket 2020:

    I raised this earlier, there are some cracking attacks around at the moment. And we tend to lump players from the past together even if they weren't actually around at the same time.

    I think despite the advances in batting technology the ebb and flow is favouring bowlers again. Pleasing that our three main pacemen ( yes including the much maligned Southee ) are playing their part in this.

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    Some early COVID musings for club cricket in oz. Released in an email to clubs in SA. Can t speak for the others.

    No sweat or spitting on the ball to shine.
    Slips 1.5 metres apart.
    Only wicketkeeper near the batsman when standing up.
    No hugging or celebrating closely.
    Fist bumps only
    Possibility of reducing teams to 10 aside ( I shit you not)
    Each club must appoint a COVID safety officer and produce plans.

    Early days and time for reason to emerge but aren't fish heads and safety committees great?

    Personally I think we'll play exactly the same way as we did last season.

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    Some Test cricket to watch!

    If you have sparksport..

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19430/preview/1225247/england-vs-west-indies-1st-test-icc-world-test-championship

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    @Duluth That's around 45 miles from me ... and it pissting down here today and forecast too all day ....

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    The England v WI test is also on BBC for those that can access.
    Not much play in day one. Windies got an early wicket with early movement but pitch looks dead.

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    Good grief Indians write some utter bullshit about cricket so I’m in two minds on this one.....

    Big fan of Ryder in the day but I’ve grown to enjoy the fact Henry Nicholls keeps his drinking under control.

    I think at test level he was missed more and a 3/4/5 of KW, Rossco and him could have competed with anyone.

    I miss Bondy though and despite the stop starts still rate him our second best ever.

    Stuff
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    So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

    Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

    I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

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    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

    Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

    I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

    I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

    Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

    I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

    I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

    Except for no saliva on the ball. Decreases the opportunity for sandpaper use.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

    Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

    I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

    I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

    Jesus that’s actually funny, do you get your boys to write your jokes now..

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    @Virgil said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

    Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

    I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

    I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

    Jesus that’s actually funny, do you get your boys to write your jokes now..

    I could screenshot the absolute plethora of likes you've given me on FB over the years but that would only embarrass you.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @Virgil said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

    Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

    I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

    I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

    Jesus that’s actually funny, do you get your boys to write your jokes now..

    I could screenshot the absolute plethora of likes you've given me on FB over the years but that would only embarrass you.

    #fakenews

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    #318

    Cool game. I left the Windies at effectively 4 down for 30 something, with some admiration that they'd pushed the poms valiantly. The new dukes was going all over and the poms were bowling disciplined.

    A fine win for the caribbeans. That Blackwood 95 must have been class on a 5th day wicket with uneven bounce.

    Crazy toss decision by Stokes in that weather. Anderson bowling like he's 10 years younger. Poms still picking journeymen batters who average under 40 in 1st class, and come to test cricket with glaring technical flaws - play 10 games, get a ton and only ever get mentioned with the suffix " oh yeah, I think I remember him" Vince, Malan, Stoneham, Keaton someone, Carbery, etc. Now add Denly and soon crawley.
    Not that I can offer better but they're taking our "chuck em in and see" approach to batsmen selections to new heights.

    Jason Holder is a marvel.
    Please let there be a turning wicket so we can see big Rahkeem in action. He's got bigger

    Great to have test cricket to watch in an evening instead of that incessant Netflix browsing we've been doing for months!

    Root obviously got one 9 months ago, so he's back for the next one at old Trafford on Thursday.

    Oh, and if there's one professional sport where the players are used to no crowds, it's red ball cricket!

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