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    @Canes4life

    Prinsep wasn't great either. Evans was worse

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    @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    How the hell does Prinsep start before Evans?

    Because he wasn't as bad as Evans in week 1

    This is your drum you're constantly beating now? 😉 Evans was poop last week, no doubt, but he's usually good at Super level.

    Does anyone know Prinsep? I'd like him to give me 6 numbers for the lotto ticket I plan to buy. Actually, if anyone knows Blackwell he's likely as good an option as well.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    Is Holland for real? How the hell does Prinsep start before Evans?

    To make things worse he gets rid of IWL who was the only one to provide any sort of starch to our forward pack.

    I've lost all faith in this coaching staff when they can't see where the obvious weaknesses are.

    Crusaders by plenty.

    It's like being back in

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    @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    @Canes4life

    Prinsep wasn't great either. Evans was worse

    The difference is Evans and Flanders both have the potential to be very good. Prinsep's performance last week is pretty much what we expect from him, that's his level.

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    @Duluth difference is, Prinsep is always average. Evans has proven himself to be top-notch at Super level. Prinsep and Blackwell are apparently vital communicators in the leadership group but that doesn't mean much when they are average.

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    @Nepia said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    Evans was poop last week, no doubt, but he's usually good at Super level.

    I covered that yesterday:

    @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    Maybe Evans deserves the start based on history, but I think the Canes should pick the guy in better form.

    I don't think the Hurricanes are in a position where they can ignore form (even if he does play for Hawkes)
    They need to turn around things quickly, Ardie starting was a no brainer and Evans was the player that earned a demotion

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    @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    I don't think the Hurricanes are in a position where they can ignore form

    Except, they are, with Prinsep. Personally I'd advocate Flanders at 6 over Evans. Evans and Ardie are too similar in that they're 'flair' players. Flanders will work he arse off and not go backwards in the tackle.

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    @akan004 exactly right - it makes no sense to persist with a (and I'm being generous here) average player when you have someone like Evans, or a potential future star in Flanders.

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    I think they'd be worried about removing all the senior players at once. When Coles was asked about who the leaders were last week he said himself, Evans and Prinsep. Maybe if/when the season is dead they'll take that risk.
    This week I thought it'd be a selection shoot out between Evans and Prinsep. Evans losses that on form

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    @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    @Nepia

    I think they'd be worried about removing all the senior players at once. When Coles was asked about who the leaders were last week he said himself, Evans and Prinsep. Maybe if/when the season is dead they'll take that risk

    He's a rugby Lee Germon. 😉

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    Worst Hurricanes set-up I can remember. Shambolic. Crusaders by a big number.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    Too many of the same old faces in the Canes coaching staff. We really need a complete cleanout.

    Chris Gibbes is new this season and I rate him as a forwards coach. He was very good coaching Waikato and did well for Wellington too.

    BUT if he has had a big say in the forward pack selected for this match I would ask WTF?

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    Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Braydon Ennor, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Bryn Hall, Whetukamokamo Douglas, Billy Harmon, Cullen Grace, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Whitelock, Michael Alaalatoa, Codie Taylor (captain), Joe Moody.

    Reserves: Brodie McAlister, George Bower, Oliver Jager, Luke Romano, Ethan Blackadder, Mitchell Drummond, David Havili, Leicester Faingaanuku


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300038254/no-crusaders-captaincy-for-sam-whitelock-despite-scott-barrett-injury

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
    case in point with Blackwell at lock and Prinsep even starting

    This.

    Prinsep is an NPC bench player at best

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    This has been an amusing thread; "No, this guy is less shit that this guy".

    Evans was poor last week, he was utterly dominated. You can't reward that sort of form, you have to pick the guy who contributed more.

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    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    You can't reward that sort of form

    The Canes coaches obviously do, Prinsep has been average his whole career, yet still gets selected.

    Doesn't really matter anyway, the Crusaders are going to butcher us due to bad coaching and selections and the fact their team is stacked even without S Barrett.

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    So the three young LH options are all ignored and May is brought back as the replacement LH. And so it goes on. Rubbish players are kept, a good lock replacement is dropped and young promising players are ignored

    Whats going on in Wellington? Is there another virus doing the rounds that make people irrational. Where economies are ruined for a yearly flu and team selections make nil sense.

    The one good thing is they now have another good line-out option. Shame is this is the only one in the starting team. And likely these clown coaches will keep Blackwell on and replace Fifita with Scrafton to keep it this way.

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    @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    How the hell does Prinsep start before Evans?

    Because he wasn't as bad as Evans in week 1

    Blues fans supporting clown coaches from another team.

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    @Winger there seems to be no media scrutiny on the Canes in Wellington atm, infact I'd be surprised if a crowd turned up at all considering there has been next to no hype or talk about the game on Sunday. Maybe it's just because deep down everyone knows the no-name coach is clueless and we just don't have the calibre of players to get the job done this year.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    @Winger there seems to be no media scrutiny on the Canes in Wellington atm, infact I'd be surprised if a crowd turned up at all considering there has been next to no hype or talk about the game on Sunday. Maybe it's just because deep down everyone knows the no-name coach is clueless and we just don't have the calibre of players to get the job done this year.

    Its a bit depressing really. How does such a poor coaching group get to take over what was a top team just a few years back. I guess it rests with an incompetent board and staff.

    And what must the players think? BB will be feeling great that he left this mess.

    I'm no longer in Wellington but if I was I certainly wouldn't bother spending money to see the game.

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