P and all that jazz
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I think P is uncut speed - methamphetamine, or "ice" in pure form as they call it. "P" for "pure"</p></blockquote>
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Nick's right according to this website<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.methminder.co.nz/faq/'>http://www.methminder.co.nz/faq/</a><br>
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<p>I thought the P was becasue it was made from Psuedoefidrine?</p>
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<p>I always thought it meant Pure.</p>
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<p>It's called Ice in Oz? Crystal Meth in US? Base might be the closest to it in the UK.</p> -
I always thought base was short for freebase - ie crack. <br><br>
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<p>I always thought it meant Pure.</p>
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<p>It's called Ice in Oz? Crystal Meth in US? Base might be the closest to it in the UK.</p>
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<p>Meth in the US, and increasingly just called meth in the UK too. Ice & Crystal get used too... but mostly meth.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="555652" data-time="1454300681"><p>I've never touched anything, weed included, just never been that bothered by it TBH; you hear the odd story about P-houses, I know when I was working at the council for a year 2 houses were 'discovered' as being P-Houses and as such needed to have this on the file for future LIM reports (although owners had spent thousands cleaning it) and there have been burglaries/robberies where the criminal was supposedly on P, 1 fatality a few years back.</p></blockquote>
I liked this because to me in this day and age I am fucking astounded you had the seld control to avoid even weed. <br><br>
I have had e, weed, coke, speed, tabs, p and herbal highs. For me herbals were a lot of fun but more damaging than the others. I would load up on them for a start which is fucked stupid. Wanting to get to the high faster and feeling like the 2 tablet dosage just wasnt working so id take 4. I was young and fucken stupid. The night would be awesome from there but the next 24-48 hours after were a write off. Never had come downs as bad i had on herbals. I would occasionally manage to fall asleep on the come down only to be jolted awake by what felt like an electric shock confined to the inside of my head. It was what i imagined a mini stroke felt like. Scary. Stupidly though id be back doing it again only a week later. Married life and children probably saved me as the herbals we used to be able to get were eventually going to be lethal fro someone like me.<br><br>
P only had once and it was only because i had no idea it was fucken meth. Its was early days for the drug in NZ but id seen the effects of it in OZ and was not planning on having it be a bix to tick off. I was drunk at a party and this cat had just sold his ute for $7k and $1k worth of this shit offered me some. I had it, light bulb set up - bulb has the part that goes into the socket removed and thats the mouth piece, P is in the bottom and you heat the bulb with a lighter. At first i felt nothing. Then i drank half a bottle of bourbon straight. Got aggressive with some skater types and spewed my ring out. Pink shit. I had not eaten anything red or pink that day so it was a bit of a worry. Later i was told what it was and thankfully have not touched that or anything else since.<br><br>
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<p>I always thought it meant Pure.</p>
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<p>It's called Ice in Oz? Crystal Meth in US? Base might be the closest to it in the UK.</p>
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<p>Yes it is "ice" here because of the crystalline pure form looking like ice shards. Because its pure now, its a much bigger problem than when it was just meth i.e. cut with other stuff. Its really fucking shit up in some towns.</p> -
I hate smoking so I Cant stand the thought of puffing away on a joint instead....I was more interested in scoring girls than a hit of anything....I've never really had too much other stuff available to me, but I guess it comes down to me being a goody goodyhaha
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<p>I hate smoking so I Cant stand the thought of puffing away on a joint instead....I was more interested in scoring girls than a hit of anything....I've never really had too much other stuff available to me, but I guess it comes down to me being a goody goodyhaha</p>
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<p>You just need some good cookies bro!! :yes:</p> -
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<p>I hate smoking so I Cant stand the thought of puffing away on a joint instead....<strong>I was more interested in scoring girls than a hit of anything</strong>....I've never really had too much other stuff available to me, but I guess it comes down to me being a goody goodyhaha</p>
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<p>You missed out on all the stoner girls though ....</p> -
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<p>You just need some good cookies bro!! :yes:</p>
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<p>I grew out of eating cookies at parties when I was about 12 ;)</p>
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<p>You missed out on all the stoner girls though ....</p>
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<p>Nah, missed out onbuggar all :good1:</p> -
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<p>I grew out of eating cookies at parties when I was about 12 ;)</p>
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<p>Nah, missed out onbuggar all :good1:</p>
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<p>Given you're from Northland I'd assume you were celibate growing up if you were cutting out the stoner girls.</p> -
<p>I never said I was cutting out anyone...?</p>
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I never touched any of those things. I guess I was one of the two people who gave a shit about all those Say No To Drugs campaigns when I was a kid. <br><br>
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<p>I had a bit of difficulty teaching kids the message about drugs.</p>
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<p>Got a bit stumped when the more adventurous would ask "why do so many people, some really successful, take drugs and don't ruin their lives?"</p>
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<p>So the answer to that very relevant question has to be the truth - "Because drugs make you feel good. They can be exciting and they can make you feel like you're having a lot of fun"</p>
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<p>Then comes the "buts" about excessive consumption, warning signs, looking out for friends and family, getting help, realising before you need help, costs, criminality of it all, and the apparent hypocrisy that legal drugs, alcohol, tobacco, medicines etc also alter your body and life fundamentally like the "bad" drugs do.</p>
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<p>I never touched any of those things. I guess I was one of the two people who gave a shit about all those Say No To Drugs campaigns when I was a kid.<br><br>
Drugs are baad mmkay.</p>
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<p>My experience is the same as yours and TR's </p>
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<p>Never interested in the slightest in taking drugs. Always had a mentality that you had to be rather mentally weak to take them.It is just an odds game, you might be someone who doesn't have an addictive personality, or a physiological issue with drugs... or you might be, the odds always seemed rather skewed in the negative for me.</p>
<p>I have seen many people who lacked confidence, social skills or general happiness and they turned to drugs. Some were ok, some were most def not. Having worked in finance in London I had access to pretty much any drug I could have wanted... usually for free. I guess I saw it partly as a challenge not to need that sort of stuff to have an extra good time. I am pretty judgmental about people who do drugs.. and I dont care. I particularly hate Cocaine as it made some people int he office complete asshats to deal with on a Wednesday.</p>
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<p>Having said all that.... I still a fan of legalising many of these drugs. People need to be educated to the consequences and then let Darwins law take over,</p>