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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens). SANZAAR want to have an uninterrupted SR competition so why would they agree to playing tests in the middle of that? Not to mention having to select a test squad before your own competition has even reached the halfway point.

    The story about the new global rugby season seems to be changing every week, and, as usual, there will be a compromise that neither hemisphere completely likes. Removing the June/July international window avoids an overlap with club finals in the NH, often resulting in understrength teams touring south.

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    @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

    @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens).

    I know. But why move the 6N if we don't move the RC and create a proper 'window'?

    So much scuttlebut running around at the moment on this, hopefully there is some progress that makes sense at the end. Splitting competitions is a bit suck, and no good for rugby

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    @nzzp said in A Global Season?:

    @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens).

    I know. But why move the 6N if we don't move the RC and create a proper 'window'?
    So much scuttlebut running around at the moment on this, hopefully there is some progress that makes sense at the end. Splitting competitions is a bit suck, and no good for rugby

    Ideally you would run both INternational comps around the same time, so that when the tours happen, both Hemispeheres are at the same point (in good form, not at the end of a long season blah blah blah)

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    @nzzp said in A Global Season?:

    @Bovidae really? Why move the 6N then, if not to align with when matches get played in the SH? All that's really happening in that scenario is June windows go to October

    At least by the time the October test matches roll around, everyone will be equally knackered

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    @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

    @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens). SANZAAR want to have an uninterrupted SR competition so why would they agree to playing tests in the middle of that? Not to mention having to select a test squad before your own competition has even reached the halfway point.

    The story about the new global rugby season seems to be changing every week, and, as usual, there will be a compromise that neither hemisphere completely likes. Removing the June/July international window avoids an overlap with club finals in the NH, often resulting in understrength teams touring south.

    I don't mind the logic of an international "season" of 3 or so months where the major international tournaments and tours are played. It makes much more sense than what we have now of 3 test windows.

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    I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300021556/covid19-virus-cup-could-raise-500-million-for-rugby-unions

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    @Machpants in UK and Ireland in a years time? Fucken eh! There's my summer holiday plans.

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    @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

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    @antipodean said in A Global Season?:

    @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

    Even if they do, the money a large UK stadium makes off a tier 1 game, even split in half after a large bit taken out, is still a fuckload more than we make here. Thus those 'extra' tour matches, ABs get millions each one.

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    @Machpants yeah the only thing I'm cynical about on this is international travel to here being a thing.

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    Aye, there's the rub

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    @Machpants said in A Global Season?:

    I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

    It'd be awesome - but I'd take it as a knockout style cup, a bit different, four rounds: 16, 8, 4, FINAL. Can play a plate/bowl comp as well at the same time, to keep the eyeballs up. Would give 13 'live' games, plus a bunch of second tier games, and all done in a month.

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    Really like the idea of a knockout tournament. Seems like a great idea to secure funding for the future of international and domestic rugby. Of course this means that World Rugby has immediately ruled it out ... Time to dump them.

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    Of course this means that World Rugby has immediately ruled it out

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300022440/world-rugby-shoots-down-francis-barons-500m-coronavirus-cup-concept

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    A tournament for purely revenue reasons.

    Seeing as RWC year is the worst year, financially, for the Tier 1 nations. As SH don't host June tours and NH don't host November tours - I'd be interested in seeing the proposed $500m. And how it balances against a 'normal' season.

    $500m / 16 = $31m each for the 16 participants. Although we all know it wouldn't be distributed evenly, and would the 17th non-participating nation get zero?

    Could be Great for a Tonga.

    Would it be good for a Sanzar nation like NZ to sacrifice an entire home season, or 6 weeks of their home season - how much is that worth? What happens in November.

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    @Rapido said in A Global Season?:

    Would it be good for a Sanzar nation like NZ to sacrifice an entire home season, or 6 weeks of their home season - how much is that worth? What happens in November.

    Why don't we have both? a 4 week tourney allows us and NH to have a home season, as well as this in the middle. A knockout would be 4 games, and worth shedloads to the broadcasters.

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    The other point to consider is that the B&I Lions tour to SA next year would have to be postponed to accommodate this. Would we be happy to do that if it was NZ's turn for the tour?

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    Date set for global calendar summit that could change the rugby schedule forever - report

    Date set for global calendar summit that could change the rugby schedule forever - report

    Following talks between Six Nations and SANZAAR, a follow-up is now scheduled for Dublin that includes Premiership, Top 14, PRO14 and World Rugby.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12337699&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb

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    McGeechan's thoughts.

    We (the SH) have been trying to avoid interruptions in Super Rugby but this is worse than the current situation as Super rugby and M10 Cup are two distinct competitions with different players.

    What a unified calendar might look like
    
    Late January:  All domestic leagues begin
    
    March-April:  First international window: Six Nations, Rugby Championship
    
    May: Domestic leagues resume
    
    Mid-July-August:  First rest period for everyone, six weeks
    
    September:  Domestic leagues resume
    
    October-November:  Second international window: North v South tours, tier one and tier two included, plus World Cup and Lions tour every other year
    
    November-December:  Domestic leagues finish
    
    Christmas
    
    Club World Challenge: winners of domestic leagues meet in play-offs to determine "world champion" - proceeds to be shared by pro game in both hemispheres.
    

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/121751599/how-a-global-season-could-work-and-lead-to-all-black-midweek-matches

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