Lance
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@mariner4life said in Lance:
My issue with Lance is that he coerced his young gullible team mates to ingest large quantities of carcinogens, or at the very least was complicit in that coercion.
hahaha yeah that's all on Lance....
"Complicit"
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@mariner4life said in Lance:
@antipodean said in Lance:
The man was a winner. A psychopath perhaps, but a winner nonetheless.
In much the same way I recognised Ben Johnson as the fastest sprinter in the world for a substantial period of time. Both of them competing against people also doping, they were just faster.
In Ben's defence he didn't seek to destroy people to ensure he wasn't outed. That's what makes Lance a fluffybunny.
agree with absolutely all of this. Throw in extreme arrogance, and it's quite the cocktail
I'm willing to forgive a bit of shit because i can't say categorically that i wouldn't have done the same thing in his position.
Yeah, same same. Filthy fucking cheat, but he was the best cheat in the game, and he worked his arse off the whole time. The cancer bizarrely helped with weight loss for the climbs, but you could never question his work ethic.
He'll always be a cnt for the way he attacked Lemond, the Irish physio, others. But somehow I'll always have a spot for him in my sporting heart. I really can't explain it.
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@MiketheSnow said in Lance:
Hypocrite of the highest order.
Will forever be a lying, sneaky, manipulative cu*t in my book.
You need to learn to speak more plainly. People will understand you clearly then.
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He still portrays himself as a victim though and I guess that’s just his inherent self absorbed personality.
I wonder what happened to his ex mechanic? Can’t remember his name (Mike someone). Armstrong tried hard to completely ruin him and he had to run away from being top bike mechanic on the tour circuit to running a bike shop in Upper Hutt.
The shop didn’t last and he came across as having a chip on his shoulder, but still, he didn’t deserve what he copped for telling the truth when questioned by authorities. -
He's no sporting great, he is probably sport's greatest fraud.
I don't think so. He cheated, like everyone else, but that doesn't make him a fraud. For me, it'd be like Usain Bolt beign pinged for cheating - invalidates the records, but still freakish athletes and so driven to get to the place that the drugs put them into the record books.
So, assholes, lying, cheating, sport destroying monsters ... but not frauds.
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I'll watch it; it'll be fascinating.
But he's a fluffybunny; a psychopathic cheating fluffybunny of the highest order.
He's no sporting great, he is probably sport's greatest fraud.
I guess that's why I'll watch it though.
Yeah - when you read about some of the shit he did to take down people who were telling the truth about him, Lance is a total asshole.
But, the story is compulsive viewing.
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He still portrays himself as a victim though and I guess that’s just his inherent self absorbed personality.
I wonder what happened to his ex mechanic? Can’t remember his name (Mike someone). Armstrong tried hard to completely ruin him and he had to run away from being top bike mechanic on the tour circuit to running a bike shop in Upper Hutt.
The shop didn’t last and he came across as having a chip on his shoulder, but still, he didn’t deserve what he copped for telling the truth when questioned by authorities.Hardly surprising
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@canefan yeah but now? I can't get to play now on the app
Its finishing in 40 minutes. Not on demand. Next viewing is tomorrow or Thursday? It's almost stone age
Not on demand, fucking killing me!!!!
Unacceptable in this era of netflix and Disney+
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I'll watch it; it'll be fascinating.
But he's a fluffybunny; a psychopathic cheating fluffybunny of the highest order.
He's no sporting great, he is probably sport's greatest fraud.
I guess that's why I'll watch it though.
Yeah - when you read about some of the shit he did to take down people who were telling the truth about him, Lance is a total asshole.
But, the story is compulsive viewing.
I'd expect it is. And will try and watch at some stage.
But one of the biggest fluffybunnies in the history of sport.
And am wondering if "of sport" is necessary in the above sentence.
Am continually astonished at how much respect he gets. Pretty much any is too much in my opinion.
And that cunty photo of him with "his" yellow jerseys sum him up.
Leadership?
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And that cunty photo of him with "his" yellow jerseys sum him up.
Well it's difficult to argue that he didn't earn them. When he rode he wasn't the only one doping. Nor was it just his team.
It's possible to admire the drive and strength to accomplish what he did while acknowledging the repugnant aspects of his personality.
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@antipodean said in Lance:
And that cunty photo of him with "his" yellow jerseys sum him up.
Well it's difficult to argue that he didn't earn them. When he rode he wasn't the only one doping. Nor was it just his team.
It's possible to admire the drive and strength to accomplish what he did while acknowledging the repugnant aspects of his personality.
I can't bring myself to admire any part of the man
