Boxing Thread
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@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 Tyson was the ultimate weapon. Cus created a boxer, defensively, like no other. We had not seen, nor since, head and body movement like Tyson. I think Tyson is the second greatest heavyweight. But he could have ended Ali when both in their prime. Just the same as Ali could have gotten into his head and mind fucked him into being over-aggressive. Which would have lead to Ali exploiting that weakness.
So hard to call. Smartest of ring smarts and defensive skill VS otherworldly knock out precision, body movement and power.
I'd go Tyson now. 10 years ago I was for Ali .
See, posts like this are why we bow to your knowledge. Just brilliant stuff.
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@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 Tyson was the ultimate weapon. Cus created a boxer, defensively, like no other. We had not seen, nor since, head and body movement like Tyson. I think Tyson is the second greatest heavyweight. But he could have ended Ali when both in their prime. Just the same as Ali could have gotten into his head and mind fucked him into being over-aggressive. Which would have lead to Ali exploiting that weakness.
So hard to call. Smartest of ring smarts and defensive skill VS otherworldly knock out precision, body movement and power.
I'd go Tyson now. 10 years ago I was for Ali .
I cant argue with that , its funny, when tyson burst onto the scene I was in my early 20s, Ali was my childhood hero ,out of stubborness I wouldnt have it that he could possibly beat Ali , even though deep down in my heart I knew that wouldve been a massive massive danger fight .
The other thing with boxing , just like football , they could fight 10 times and it might be 5-5 , 6-4 , 7-3 whatever . But usually fighters only fight once and thats all we remember , and then from that we say fighter A is better , but quite often their abilities are closer than that one result shows.
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Speaking of Mike ,
Watched this podcast a while back, with another boxing hero of mine Sugar Ray Leonard ,
Here is a small part of it , mike is a complicated bloke ,
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@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 I’m a couch expert like everyone else lol.
Well, be that as it may I’m definitely keen to hear your thoughts on this potential match up. I’m fairly sure this is nothing but Stuff sensationalism and Tyson’s team haven’t even looked at an offer
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@TeWaio the beef has gone backwards and forwards but Eddie doesn't have a clean sheet by any stretch of the imagination. He's actually been the more petulant one imo - at least in terms of this WR lift stuff. I follow SM but hadn't really caught much about the 2017 stuff.
In the last couple of weeks they seemed to get a bit more respectful of each other, and now they are going to box!? ha ha forget the haledon collider, these guys will split some atoms if their fists collide!!
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@MN5 it tarnishes his legacy. He may have the itch but this is carni side show shit. No hate on SBW but no one wants to see this except the promoters
The Shannon Briggs vs Tyson fight is only marginally better as a spectacle but being bare knuckle and the fact that Briggs is not as far removed from boxing as Tyson....he could end up dead. For real.
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@raznomore Yeah Briggs has still managed to keep himself in shape after all these years (with the help of drugs as well but lets be honest, they're all on the stuff), and people seem to have short memories about Tyson. He quit against a virtual nobody Kevin McBride and was stopped by barely British level Danny Williams 15 years ago ffs.
Comebacks like this never end well, hopefully he gets convinced not to go through with it, similar to when Nigel Benn tried to come back last year.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@raznomore Yeah Briggs has still managed to keep himself in shape after all these years (with the help of drugs as well but lets be honest, they're all on the stuff), and people seem to have short memories about Tyson. He quit against a virtual nobody Kevin McBride and was stopped by barely British level Danny Williams 15 years ago ffs.
Comebacks like this never end well, hopefully he gets convinced not to go through with it, similar to when Nigel Benn tried to come back last year.
This scene is actually pretty ironic. Tyson gets a mention but nowadays everything Eddie Murphy says about Joe Louis applies directly to him ! ( and Evander Holyfield )
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@raznomore Yeah Briggs has still managed to keep himself in shape after all these years (with the help of drugs as well but lets be honest, they're all on the stuff), and people seem to have short memories about Tyson. He quit against a virtual nobody Kevin McBride and was stopped by barely British level Danny Williams 15 years ago ffs.
Comebacks like this never end well, hopefully he gets convinced not to go through with it, similar to when Nigel Benn tried to come back last year.
based on this, how much money for you to jump in the ring with Mike right now?
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@mariner4life Hmmm 7 figures would do the trick haha
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@mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@raznomore Yeah Briggs has still managed to keep himself in shape after all these years (with the help of drugs as well but lets be honest, they're all on the stuff), and people seem to have short memories about Tyson. He quit against a virtual nobody Kevin McBride and was stopped by barely British level Danny Williams 15 years ago ffs.
Comebacks like this never end well, hopefully he gets convinced not to go through with it, similar to when Nigel Benn tried to come back last year.
based on this, how much money for you to jump in the ring with Mike right now?
Free
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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@raznomore Yeah Briggs has still managed to keep himself in shape after all these years (with the help of drugs as well but lets be honest, they're all on the stuff), and people seem to have short memories about Tyson. He quit against a virtual nobody Kevin McBride and was stopped by barely British level Danny Williams 15 years ago ffs.
Comebacks like this never end well, hopefully he gets convinced not to go through with it, similar to when Nigel Benn tried to come back last year.
based on this, how much money for you to jump in the ring with Mike right now?
Free
It would be amusing to see how ‘tough’ SBW, Gallen and the AFL guy whose name I forget actually would be in a round vs a rampant Tyson.
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@raznomore Yeah Briggs has still managed to keep himself in shape after all these years (with the help of drugs as well but lets be honest, they're all on the stuff), and people seem to have short memories about Tyson. He quit against a virtual nobody Kevin McBride and was stopped by barely British level Danny Williams 15 years ago ffs.
Comebacks like this never end well, hopefully he gets convinced not to go through with it, similar to when Nigel Benn tried to come back last year.
based on this, how much money for you to jump in the ring with Mike right now?
Free
It would be amusing to see how ‘tough’ SBW, Gallen and the AFL guy whose name I forget actually would be in a round vs a rampant Tyson.
Honestly, fuck that, just fuck that.
Maybe these guys think they could just cover up and last a few minutes defending? But if they even thought about trying to hit Mike, he'd fucking kill them.
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Mine is approximately all of the money.
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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@raznomore Yeah Briggs has still managed to keep himself in shape after all these years (with the help of drugs as well but lets be honest, they're all on the stuff), and people seem to have short memories about Tyson. He quit against a virtual nobody Kevin McBride and was stopped by barely British level Danny Williams 15 years ago ffs.
Comebacks like this never end well, hopefully he gets convinced not to go through with it, similar to when Nigel Benn tried to come back last year.
based on this, how much money for you to jump in the ring with Mike right now?
Free
This reminds me of a friend who got a hiding from Ray Sefo back in the early 90s when Sefo use to be a bouncer. This was his pre-K-1 days and Sefo must've only been a light heavy/light cruiser at the time, so my mate started acting up because he thought he could take this small bouncer, but he had no idea who he was dealing with and got rightfully wrecked.
When he found out years later who Sefo was and had become, he began bragging about getting knocked out by him, and even became a fan.
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So the big story in boxing ,
Fury v Wilder 3 will be in Sydney on Boxing Day ,
Pretty big Story if it comes off .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
So the big story in boxing ,
Fury v Wilder 3 will be in Sydney on Boxing Day ,
Pretty big Story if it comes off .
It's about time that day was used what it said for.....
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I was just reading this article about Andy Ruiz. This explains many of the issues he had between the first and second fights with Joshua, and what he has been doing more recently.
The mysteriously difficult struggle of finding Andy Ruiz Jr.
Twelve months after his stunning upset of Anthony Joshua -- and six months after his lifeless defeat in the rematch -- Andy Ruiz Jr. is surprisingly hard to find. What happened to the former heavyweight champion?
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