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NTA

Dunno - I thought he was referencing the video (I can't be bothered watching it again) but maybe it was to do with something else related to the issue.
 
Or it was on one of the newspaper pages that came up in the vid. I don't read Swede so couldn't tell you.

Rancid Schnitzel

Just watched video. The mangina capital of Europe is a pretty apt description. 
He must have been referring to the rape capital of Europe remark. I've no doubt that there is some serious hyperbole about rapes in Sweden. However, there are some pretty shocking stats there. 
One thing the Angry Foreigner noted was that those screaming the most about racism and advocating open door immigration tend to live in lily-white areas with barely a foreigner in sight. Id imagine there are more than a few countries where the fervent multiculturalist "elite" don't actually live anywhere near the kind of thriving melting pots they're so passionate about. Funny that.

NTA

NIMBY is universal.

NTA

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What was this rape bullshit he was referring to?
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Clarification - apparently in the video the Balkan chap mentions "Rape capital of the world" according to my mate. His response to that in statistical terms:
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Found some rape statistics for Sweden (rape capital of the world according to the Balcan lad).
 
5830 reported rapes 2015. 12% less than 2014 interestingly enough. That's 59,5 per 100,000. High compared to Australia which had 91 in 2003 but "only" 28 by 2010. Still only halfway to South Africa. But the whole Assange case gives me the feeling that Sweden's definition of rape is far wider than in many/most other countries.</blockquote>
 
I always have a bit of hesitation with some crime statistics, because things like rape and domestic violence are only based on "reported" unlike hard crimes e.g. robbing a store, chances are police will be called. DV and rape, sometimes the thing goes unreported, or, as my mate says above: it depends on the legal definition of "rape".
 
In any case, just thought I'd add that because I missed the rape thing in the video as well.

jegga

In Sweden they have a different wayvof reporting rape apparently , if a women falls victim to a Fritzl type they report each individual case which is why their statistics are so high. 
As for Assange he had sex with a woman while she was asleep and another without a condom despite her insisting on him wearing one. That's also an offence here in NZ this is the stuff that's been reported god knows what else he's done . even his son admits he's got a very odd attitude to women <a class="bbc_url" href="http://gawker.com/5757325/julian-assange-has-at-least-four-love-children">http://gawker.com/5757325/julian-assange-has-at-least-four-love-children</a> 
The man is a fucking creep I'm always astounded when I see people like Penny Bright trying to downplay play what he did and his behaviour since . I can just imagine the high dudgeon that would pour out of her if Cameron Slater did what Assange did and hid out in an embassy till the statute of limitations ran out.

Rancid Schnitzel

I thought this had to be a joke, but apparently it isn't: 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/talk_to_the_mitten/'>http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/talk_to_the_mitten/</a> 
Bet the Russians wished they'd been threatened with the mitten during the Winter War.

antipodean

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I thought this had to be a joke, but apparently it isn't: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/talk_to_the_mitten/'>http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/talk_to_the_mitten/</a> 
Bet the Russians wished they'd been threatened with the mitten during the Winter War.
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Just no idea what they're dealing with.

NTA

Certainly, this sort of thing isn't going to help:
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/10yearold-raped-by-iraqi-migrant-at-swimming-pool-in-vienna/news-story/69abed188e157e2f425d8c204fa50f17'>http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/10yearold-raped-by-iraqi-migrant-at-swimming-pool-in-vienna/news-story/69abed188e157e2f425d8c204fa50f17</a>
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">A 10-YEAR-OLD Austrian boy has been brutally raped at a public swimming pool by an Iraqi migrant, who told police the attack was a â€œsexual emergencyâ€.
The attack occurred on December 22, when the boy was dragged into the change rooms by the 20-year-old migrant at the swimming pool in Vienna, <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/05/ten-year-old-boy-brutally-raped-by-iraqi-migrant-at-pool-in-vienna/'>Breitbart reports</a>.
According to local news site <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.krone.at/Oesterreich/Bub_in_Wiener_Bad_vergewaltigt_-_Iraker_gestaendig-Sexueller_Notstand-Story-494653'>Kronen Zeitung</a>, the boy screamed for somebody to help but nobody heard him.
Afterwards, the young boy confided in a lifeguard about what had happened, while the Iraqi man continued to swim at the pool, diving off the three-metre board.
Police arrested the man at the scene and the boy was taken to hospital with severe internal injuries. The attacker told the police the rape was more or less out of frustration, dubbing it a â€œsexual emergencyâ€.
Kronen Zeitung reported the man said he had not had sex for four months and had an excess of sexual energy. He admitted it was a huge mistake and knew it would scar the boy.
Police asked the man if it was against the law to have sex with 10-year-old boys in Iraq. â€œSuch a thing is forbidden in any country of the world,â€ he said.
The man claimed to have sex with women but had not been intimate with his wife since the birth of their daughter, and she still lived in Iraq.
Police said the man entered Austria in September via the Balkans.</blockquote>
 
So throw the book at that bloke.
 
And ask the kid's parents where the fuck they were.

Baron Silas Greenback

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Certainly, this sort of thing isn't going to help:
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/10yearold-raped-by-iraqi-migrant-at-swimming-pool-in-vienna/news-story/69abed188e157e2f425d8c204fa50f17'>http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/10yearold-raped-by-iraqi-migrant-at-swimming-pool-in-vienna/news-story/69abed188e157e2f425d8c204fa50f17</a>
 
 
 
 
So throw the book at that bloke.
 
And ask the kid's parents where the fuck they were.
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Fuck off. A 10 year old kid should be able to go to the local pool without parental supervision. 10 year old kids roam around our neighborhood all the time at the local park, school pool, just generally knocking about. And if one of them fell victim to a sexual predator I sure as shit would not blame the parents for letting the kid be alone for an hour or 2 in the middle of the day. Do you have the same attitude to a 10 year walking home from school without the parents?

NTA

Public pool is different to walking home. Drowning hazard = parental supervision. 
So, why don't YOU fuck off?

taniwharugby

When I take my kids to the pools, I am not constantly hovering over my 10yr old (have to keep an eye on my 7 yr old) although if I havent seen him for a few minutes I will look for him, and then there is the holiday programme at the pools where it is the teachers/supervisors keeping an eye on them, so there are reasons why he might be there like that.

NTA

I'm similar with the boy - at the local pool, I keep whichever pool he's at in line of sight, but I don't helicopter by any means. Look up, can I see him? Get up and look if I need to. Stray kick to the head, some fuckwit older kids bullying him, whatever. Drowning hazard. 
With girl, the local pool rules state you must keep any kid under 10 within arm's length. I don't agree with that, but I'm ready to go in after her at a moment's notice. 
Radically different situation to walking home from school or going down the park with friends. And even the school/park situation depends on where you live, but usually I don't mind that in our neighbourhood. 
This fucking scum had enough time to drag a 10yo kid into a bathroom, and rape him, while NO-ONE heard him screaming for help. 
So there was zero supervision, clearly. And that isn't a crime, like rape, but it's still not excusable.

Rancid Schnitzel

Nick, you have no idea what the situation was or where the parents may or may not have been. Pretty farked up to blame them for anything without knowing any of the details.
 
As to throwing the book at this degenerate. Well I doubt he can be deported, because he probably claims he comes from ISIS ruled Iraq. If he doesn't he probably claims political asylum or some other bullshit and some cock sucking "human rights" lawyer will appeal the process the entire way. So the Austrian taxpayer will be up for his jail time and are then probably stuck with the farker. In other words, the consequence of allowing undocumented, unvetted migrants into your country. What could possibly go wrong?

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Public pool is different to walking home. Drowning hazard = parental supervision. 
So, why don't YOU fuck off?
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No. You are just squirming. There were clearly life guards there. And we are talking about sexual assault not potential drowning. Do you let your kids swim at school? The life guards are there to look at the swimming area, the kids were not at risk of drowing. So drop that red herring. Unless you never ever let your kids swim unless you are watching them.
I think it bloody retarded to somehow blame the parents for the sexual assault of a 10 year old boy. Wether it is at swimming pools or anywhere else.

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I'm similar with the boy - at the local pool, I keep whichever pool he's at in line of sight, but I don't helicopter by any means. Look up, can I see him? Get up and look if I need to. Stray kick to the head, some fuckwit older kids bullying him, whatever. Drowning hazard. 
With girl, the local pool rules state you must keep any kid under 10 within arm's length. I don't agree with that, but I'm ready to go in after her at a moment's notice. 
Radically different situation to walking home from school or going down the park with friends. And even the school/park situation depends on where you live, but usually I don't mind that in our neighbourhood. 
This fucking scum had enough time to drag a 10yo kid into a bathroom, and rape him, while NO-ONE heard him screaming for help. 
So there was zero supervision, clearly. And that isn't a crime, like rape, but it's still not excusable.
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And your kid never swims at school? How old before he will be allowed to swim with other qualified adults watching him? 
 
Some little kid has just been badly damaged by a predator, his parents will be going through a grinder and there are people ;like you blaming them.. because they let there 10 year old boy go swimming at a public pool in the middle of the day supervised by life guards. Seriously.. check yourself. 
 
Pretty simple question. Have you EVER let your kids swim without you or your wife being there? If the answer is yes.. then you are no different to the parents of that kid, if the answer is no.. then you are a monumental helicopter parent with severe trust issues.

NTA

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I think it bloody retarded to somehow blame the parents for the sexual assault of a 10 year old boy. Wether it is at swimming pools or anywhere else.</blockquote>
 
I think it's I think it's absolutely fucking retarded you think I'm blaming the parents for the action of the rapist. 
Do you think I'm absolving him of any wrongdoing? Because I haven't done that, not once. It completely fucking irrelevant if he's a migrant, I might add, but I don't expect some to focus on anything else given recent discussion on here. 
I'm talking about parental responsibility. If the kids was in their care that day, they'll be fucking distraught. If was in someone else's care, they'll be rightfully fucking livid. 
Either way, they'll have to some how get that poor kid put back together. 
But answer this: if there were other people around in THAT environment, his did no one hear this kid screaming for help? 
Massive fail by the facility or the responsible adult(s).

Baron Silas Greenback

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And ask the kid's parents where the fuck they were.
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So you were just talking about a drowning risk with this comment?
Completely irrelevant, as there were lifeguards there.
 
I think you were trying to partly blame the parents. And now you are just back tracking.

NTA

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Pretty simple question. Have you EVER let your kids swim without you or your wife being there? If the answer is yes.. then you are no different to the parents of that kid, if the answer is no.. then you are a monumental helicopter parent with severe trust issues.</blockquote>
 
See my response above. 
But yes, I have left my kids in the care of others, and in many cases I'm still required by the facility to supervise in some capacity. 
If they failed in that duty, I'd be livid. Even if it was my wife.

Baron Silas Greenback

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But answer this: if there were other people around in THAT environment, his did no one hear this kid screaming for help? 
Massive fail by the facility or the responsible adult(s).
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Why???
They are there to stop kids drowning. That is what you said you were concerned about....
 
They are not there to stop sexual predators, that is why 10 year olds walk home from school all over the country. If a kid gets kidnapped and raped walking home from school is that also a massive fail by the parents or teachers? No.. bad people can do bad shit to victims.
 
Do you not let your kids go anywhere unless they are supervised by an adult?

NTA

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="556932" data-time="1454807882">Why??? 
They are there to stop kids drowning. That is what you said you were concerned about.... 
They are not there to stop sexual predators, that is why 10 year olds walk home from school all over the country. If a kid gets kidnapped and raped walking home from school is that also a massive fail by the parents or teachers? No.. bad people can do bad shit to victims. 
Do you not let your kids go anywhere unless they are supervised by an adult?</blockquote>
Closed facility versus open public area. Yeah that's a content, parallel argument.

The Silver Fern

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