Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:
You’re no fun, I’ve got a conspiracy theory that this was all a Murdoch master plan to get the rights for cheaper (With fox sports dribbler Kearns as CEO) and keep Optus out of it.
I read that RA was close to a deal with Optus before covid-19 hit so it was bad timing for Castle.
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@Siam said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
I've also penned an open letter to the ARU today, emphasising some of the points made by our esteemed skippers:
An Open Letter to Rugby Australia - Green & Gold Rugby
It's time to go... Rugby Australia. The skippers and I have spoken.
I read it in the voice and cadence of John Clarke and it was superb!😀
Well written mate.
I somehow missed this earlier. Yep, a touch of editing and that's a top homage to Clarke.
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@Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:
That TV deal with Fox can’t be too far off now ....
With no CEO? Not sure what the deal is. But it can't be a huge cut in value because players get a mandated percentage and they'll blow up deluxe if there are serious cuts.
You’re no fun, I’ve got a conspiracy theory that this was all a Murdoch master plan to get the rights for cheaper (With fox sports dribbler Kearns as CEO) and keep Optus out of it.
Theory?
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Agree. I hope Aust can sort things out and for that they need good leaders. And preferable an Aussie who once played rugby at some level.
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@Winger said in Aussie Rugby:
And preferable an Aussie who once played rugby at some level.
I don't see how that has anything to do with being good at sports administration.
First up test for incoming CEO if it's Kearns or Farr-Jones; recognising the parlous financial state of RA, will you do the job for free?
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@Winger said in Aussie Rugby:
And preferable an Aussie who once played rugby at some level.
I don't see how that has anything to do with being good at sports administration.
First up test for incoming CEO if it's Kearns or Farr-Jones; recognising the parlous financial state of RA, will you do the job for free?
Yeah, I don't see how 'played at some level' is really a criteria. More like 'understands the game through long term involvement'.
I do agree that a complete outsider is not a good approach no matter how strong the business acumen, but the board is already full of those and apparently they weren't good enough for the whinging mob.
That Fitzsimons article pretty much hits the nail on the head. RA have had a run of bad decisions and bad luck. Work together if you love the game.As an aside, he mentions the waste of $ after 2003. I was in Oz at that time and involved in junior rugby. There was a bunch of pretty brochures and coaching material thrown around and kids were keen to get involved but nothing you could consider long term and sustainable was targeted at the kids. On op of that some newly employed fish head came up with a whole lot of administrative stuff (and new insurance) that upped the fees that clubs had to collect from parents. It was really poor decision making that not only wasted the windfall and opportunity but ruined a generation which is now showing badly.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
First up test for incoming CEO if it's Kearns or Farr-Jones; recognising the parlous financial state of RA, will you do the job for free?
Pop quiz hotshot: how much would they have to pay YOU to take on that CEO role, in that viper pit? Honestly, I'm not sure there's enough money... would be brutal
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the rugby codes, especially the overly influential ex-players, have this weird obsession with the notion that you can only run the game if you played it at the top level. I wonder why that is? And, for some weird reason, people latch on to it as if it's perfectly logical.
The NRL is about to make the same mistake. It's fucking retarded.
I have been around rugby players nearly all my life. I would trust very, very few to run a fish and chip shop, let alone a gigantic sporting enterprise.
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
First up test for incoming CEO if it's Kearns or Farr-Jones; recognising the parlous financial state of RA, will you do the job for free?
Pop quiz hotshot: how much would they have to pay YOU to take on that CEO role, in that viper pit? Honestly, I'm not sure there's enough money... would be brutal
i would take it over the NRL job in a heartbeat
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
First up test for incoming CEO if it's Kearns or Farr-Jones; recognising the parlous financial state of RA, will you do the job for free?
Pop quiz hotshot: how much would they have to pay YOU to take on that CEO role, in that viper pit? Honestly, I'm not sure there's enough money... would be brutal
i would take it over the NRL job in a heartbeat
NRL yes - tribal support, and a salary capped decent comp that churns out talent. Rugby though?
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@mariner4life agree and it reminds me of people complaining about sports administrators - never mind that most of them play the sport or used to play it, or are family of players.
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@Godder said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life agree and it reminds me of people complaining about sports administrators - never mind that most of them play the sport or used to play it, or are family of players.
Not only that, but people think the same about coaching for some reason. I mean, clearly Henry and Hansen can't be better coaches than Umaga and Kirwan, as they ddin't play to that level.
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
First up test for incoming CEO if it's Kearns or Farr-Jones; recognising the parlous financial state of RA, will you do the job for free?
Pop quiz hotshot: how much would they have to pay YOU to take on that CEO role, in that viper pit? Honestly, I'm not sure there's enough money... would be brutal
I'd do it on my current remuneration (with a bonus for meeting KPIs).
Free tickets to rugby games would save me cash to start with.
The big difference is I'm not the one doing incalculable damage to the sport for my own gratification.
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@Tim https://play.afl/auskick seems to be remarkably successful. Programmes like that are making headway in traditional league/ rugby areas.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim https://play.afl/auskick seems to be remarkably successful. Programmes like that are making headway in traditional league/ rugby areas.
AFL, aside from appearing to be well run, also has a natural advantage at the junior level these days - in a world where concussion effects are being recognised and increasing numbers of parents don't want their kids playing the violent codes, AFL is a great compromise . You can still be a bit aggressive, but there is little in the way of impact injuries.
It also gives a decent grounding in using both hand and feet skills.
I still don't like the sport, but I can see why parents put their kids into it.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
First up test for incoming CEO if it's Kearns or Farr-Jones; recognising the parlous financial state of RA, will you do the job for free?
Pop quiz hotshot: how much would they have to pay YOU to take on that CEO role, in that viper pit? Honestly, I'm not sure there's enough money... would be brutal
i would take it over the NRL job in a heartbeat
Can you imagine the 1st 15 seconds of every day as NRL commish? Open your eyes, heart rate spikes to 195bpm as you check your phone for the latest scandal...
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim https://play.afl/auskick seems to be remarkably successful. Programmes like that are making headway in traditional league/ rugby areas.
AFL, aside from appearing to be well run, also has a natural advantage at the junior level these days - in a world where concussion effects are being recognised and increasing numbers of parents don't want their kids playing the violent codes, AFL is a great compromise . You can still be a bit aggressive, but there is little in the way of impact injuries.
It also gives a decent grounding in using both hand and feet skills.
I still don't like the sport, but I can see why parents put their kids into it.
the AFL, in the main, works off a bottom-up model. Get the kids in, and everything else takes care of itself.
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@Tim said in Aussie Rugby:
I've been told that AFL has by far the best junior program in Australia. Is this true?
Yes very well run they target the best athletes very early.I know in my Job within Cricket here in Australia we are always batting to keep the better athletes as the AFL run well funded and very well marketed academies.
We lost a few young players to AFL which were already in the system playing for Australia u/19s.Two I coached are now 22 and only playing in the local AFL comp but are not interested in coming back to Cricket.
