Coronavirus - Overall
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Look at this current chart, nearly all countries followed the same pattern. A slow response with gradual measures, did they ever work? It doesn't appear so. Why do any countries including Oz/NZ think they are any different. Lock down seems inevitable, why wait another week or two? All these countries had minimal cases only a month ago.
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@Rapido said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
As for the young:
must be 100s of thousands in Sydney originally from elsewhere with no concern they can infect older loved ones.Some young people aren't covering themselves in glory are they?. Reports here in the UK of them pushing in front of older people during reserved hours for seniors to supermarket shop, others organizing parties in public places like parks.
I'm sure there's loads of great things kids are doing, but sadly, it only takes one retard to infect loads of other, vulnerable people.
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@R-L said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Our Sainsburys wasn't too bad apparently, obviously I didn't brave it, think it's timing. No loo Roll though. We've got enough for now.
Mrs M's niece is working her way thru Uni and is stacking shelves at Sainsbury's. Doing a Masters in Child Psych. She's learning a lot about crowd behaviour...
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@Victor-Meldrew yea I said earlier, surely there will be a massive disparity in figures as there is unlikely a uniform testing process.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Yep pretty grim over there. Hope our UK and European ferners look after themselves and their families.
It's a weird situation. Country is both socially-isolating and coming together. No real panic - apart from the shopping. Almost a resignation that things need to change for a few months to a year, it's going to get bad, but let's work together make the best of it. Some great stuff going on to help vulnerable people.
Lived here for decades and the Brits seem to have this ability to be ignore each other for years, but when things go wrong they become the best neighbors or fellow commuters you ever had.
Hope it continues.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Yep pretty grim over there. Hope our UK and European ferners look after themselves and their families.
It's a weird situation. Country is both socially-isolating and coming together. No real panic - apart from the shopping. Almost a resignation that things need to change for a few months to a year, it's going to get bad, but let's work together make the best of it. Some great stuff going on to help vulnerable people.
Lived here for decades and the Brits seem to have this ability to be ignore each other for years, but when things go wrong they become the best neighbors or fellow commuters you ever had.
Hope it continues.
Times like this always brings out the best of some people ( most people I’d like to think) but also the worst in others.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
but also the worst in others.
That's where social pressure (rather that rules) needs to kick in.
When I first came here several decades ago, I was taken aback how much drink-driving was frowned upon - vastly different attitude to NZ despite the UK having more lenient drink-driving laws. It something you just didn't do.
Just hope that attitude comes to the fore.
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@taniwharugby let me guess A Man's idea!
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https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894
Probably better in this thread.
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@R-L is it worth the risk?
Haha people are batshit
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@R-L is it worth the risk?
Haha people are batshit
You tell me? I assume she would argue it works for men too? Enjoy!
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@R-L I think she may have already appeared in the woo thread before...
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Australia has lost its fucking mind. NT has decided it's no longer part of the federation by closing its borders and police are threatening to arrest people for not practising social distancing on beaches.
These are defacto War Measures, and in a civil emergency — which is what this is — I’m okay with a little enforced “Civil Coordination” of a crowd that Darwin might have used as text book example of natural selection.
There is a contagion changing the behaviour of the planet and putting a lot of us out of work.
I can take 3-6 weeks without an income. What I have no patience for are people who want us to get sick and bleed financially for the next 18 months. This virus requires coordinated action NOW!
@Tim posted an article previously by John P.A. Ioannidis pointing out we're making wide ranging and far impacting decisions without good, robust evidence. Social distancing flattens the curve and would require these behaviours for a much longer period of time than you envisage impacting our economy. This isn't a stay home for a few weeks playbook.
I also don't accept your analogies.
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Man Italy showing no signs of slowing down.
Can't seem to see confirmation of any new cases here, looks like a further 2?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Man Italy showing no signs of slowing down.
Can't seem to see confirmation of any new cases here, looks like a further 2?
I don't know what the hell they are doing there. The article BSG posted on the other covid 19 thread says the numbers suggest that community spread by casual contact was much lower than close quarters contact. I don't think they are doing much of what they should be. Do they not believe in hand washing or are they all still drinking from the same cup at communion?
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Man Italy showing no signs of slowing down.
Can't seem to see confirmation of any new cases here, looks like a further 2?
I don't know what the hell they are doing there. The article BSG posted on the other covid 19 thread says the numbers suggest that community spread by casual contact was much lower than close quarters contact. I don't think they are doing much of what they should be. Do they not believe in hand washing or are they all still drinking from the same cup at communion?
Or the intergenerational living arrangements and population density a big contributor? And smoker numbers.
Who knows?
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Man Italy showing no signs of slowing down.
Can't seem to see confirmation of any new cases here, looks like a further 2?
I don't know what the hell they are doing there. The article BSG posted on the other covid 19 thread says the numbers suggest that community spread by casual contact was much lower than close quarters contact. I don't think they are doing much of what they should be. Do they not believe in hand washing or are they all still drinking from the same cup at communion?
Or the intergenerational living arrangements and population density a big contributor? And smoker numbers.
Who knows?
All of the above. Either way they need to flatten the curve asap
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@canefan @taniwharugby @Kirwan
Have you guys ever been to an Italian hospital? I spent a day in one in Sicily - it may not have been representative, but fck me it was disgusting. I assume they have massive shortages of staff and equipment to go with it
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Man Italy showing no signs of slowing down.
Can't seem to see confirmation of any new cases here, looks like a further 2?
I don't know what the hell they are doing there.
The public are not following advice to stay at home. I was told that the Italian government asked a Telco to track their mobile phones and 40% of the population was regularly on the move. This will be mostly the younger generation who will then have contact with their family/grandparents and you know the rest...