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The sex that produces the larger gametes needs its own protected category. Have one for them and one 'open' category for everyone else.
You don't need to consult experts on a blindingly obvious topic. Just can't believe this is even on the table for discussion.
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@Stargazer said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
This is why people hate 'experts' . When it comes to something vaguely political they turn out to be rabid activists or gutless money grubbers.
I bought up the Hannah Mouncey situation with a work colleague a while back, he had heard an interview with 'experts' on the radio. They confirmed that Hannah did not have an unfair advantage over biological women. All it took from me was a 2 minute video of Hannah training to undo all those 'expert' qualifications.
Its a disgrace that the Olympics haven't addressed this. Coronavirus might just be a blessing potentially delaying that embarrassment and maybe resetting some folks priorities in life.
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@No-Quarter That thread from Ross Tucker in her tweet is also very good.
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@MajorRage said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
So glad to see Ross Tucker there - he seems really on the ball on a lot of issues around sports science.
Oh, and the walrus called him a nobody and abuses him on Twitter.
There is no higher recommendation!
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@sparky said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@Bones Have Women's (XY) Rugby and then Open Rugby. Trans Gender or Third Gender people can compete in Open Rugby alongside Men. Non-discriminatory and maintains safety.
That's one option but I would prefer three types. Men. Women. Trans folk.
Then if they can get at least two teams going they can play.
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@Catogrande said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@sparky said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@Bones Have Women's (XY) Rugby and then Open Rugby. Trans Gender or Third Gender people can compete in Open Rugby alongside Men. Non-discriminatory and maintains safety.
That's one option but I would prefer three types. Men. Women. Trans folk.
Then if they can get at least two teams going they can play.
I agree - safest way forward for women, trans and white cis rugby playing males
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@junior said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@Catogrande said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@sparky said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@Bones Have Women's (XY) Rugby and then Open Rugby. Trans Gender or Third Gender people can compete in Open Rugby alongside Men. Non-discriminatory and maintains safety.
That's one option but I would prefer three types. Men. Women. Trans folk.
Then if they can get at least two teams going they can play.
I agree - safest way forward for women, trans and white cis rugby playing males
White?
And fuck off with that cis shit. Males and trans males. That’s it.
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Or as SA rugby fans might say, trans stain.
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@Stargazer said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
Interview with Ross Tucker
Good to see detailed analysis and stats to back up what is essentially a common sense argument.
As has been said before, I think we will end up with an open class and a biological womans class. If we don't, that's the end of woman's sport.
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This would be like prime Frans Botha having to fight the dregs in the heavyweight division today. It would get ugly fast.
Transgender debate, in sport, in general