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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    They played great rugby and as a rugby fan, it was good to see a positively-oriented team win.

    This. They played awesome footy.

    No dull boring Warrenball sweating on mistakes from box kicks.

    This is how we want rugby played.

    Well done Ingerlund

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    @Higgins said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Old-Samurai-Jack Cron, as you say "might be a scrum guru" but as he is not part of the selection panel does he have to take some of the blame for a poor tight five? He can only work with who the selectors give him and if who they give him are not up to it in the first place there is not much he can do about it.

    Would have an influence and give his opinions though..

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    replied to fcc on last edited by
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    @fcc Awesome analysis , but it hurts reading it

    Jones and Mitchell did a job on Shag and fozzie big time

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    Not trawling back to see if already posted...

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    It's easy to forget just how good Carter was in the 2015 semi against SA. Like last night we were well below par in that game, and he took it by the scruff of the neck and got us over the line. Could have easily been bundled out then; boy did we need a cool head like that against England.

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    @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

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    It's funny coz it's true.
    Wal's reaction feels so, so familiar.

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    ben Smith rieko loane should of played

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    @Jonty-lean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    ben Smith rieko loane should of played

    “have”
    I'll ignore the random capitalisation.
    Welcome to the Fern, but beware... here be pedants.

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    @fcc that's awesome, cheers. Only thing is, and your shots show it well...on so many occasions they just neglected to throw that last pass and it wasn't because the option wasn't there, they just created pressure in their own heads and didn't trust. Bottled it.

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    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @fcc that's awesome, cheers. Only thing is, and your shots show it well...on so many occasions they just neglected to throw that last pass and it wasn't because the option wasn't there, they just created pressure in their own heads and didn't trust. Bottled it.

    If only Gilbert Enoka could have helped them with their mental strength and clarity.

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    @No-Quarter said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    It's easy to forget just how good Carter was in the 2015 semi against SA. Like last night we were well below par in that game, and he took it by the scruff of the neck and got us over the line. Could have easily been bundled out then; boy did we need a cool head like that against England.

    We'll never know if guys like Cane, Crotty and B smith could have pulled us through

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    Like France the weekend before, the margin during the match was never insurmountable and whilst under pressure NZ were never starved of possession.

    It's what they did and didn't do with the ball that did for them.

    Poor choices on the field by the players and no real Plan B.

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    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Haaaaa

    After Whitelock's hand made contact with Farrell's head to get him out of the ruck, TJ Perenara asked Farrell if he was playing in the Premier League, rather than the Rugby World Cup semifinal.

    They knew what Farrell was like....and simply played his game.

    The lack of intelligence at times in the game was breath-taking.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Like France the weekend before, the margin during the match was never insurmountable and whilst under pressure NZ were never starved of possession.

    It's what they did and didn't do with the ball that did for them.

    Poor choices on the field by the players and no real Plan B.

    The problem wasn't so much no real Plan B as there were about 30 plan Bs none executed repeatedly or with conviction.

    Also Hansen and Foster's Plan A was boll*cks.

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    @cgrant said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Would DMac have done better ?

    Dunno. But he may have found a way of changing the game, Ritchie looked out of sorts with the pressure he was under.

    Not saying Mo'unga lacks intestinal fortitude, but DMac seems to me to be one seriously hard mother - physically and mentally.

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    After a nights sleep...

    I really think we could have pinched that game - and I'm not taking anything away from England. There were times when we started to come good and then buggered things up by forgetting the basics. E.g.:

    • BBBR took the wrong decision on the breakout. Had he passed we should have scored. 7-7 and we'd have been back in it.

    • We had a line-out throw 5m from the English line - and blew it. How that happened with our lineout options is beyond me,

    • When Cole made the break up-field there was very little support. Opportiunity was wasted.

    • Whitelock's penalty. Again, if we'd kicked that it would have been game on

    Read at times had a strange look in his eyes - like a rabbit facing a car. Think he epitomized the almost total lack of leadership from the senior players in the game. He really isn't good under pressure.

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    @antipodean

    And Ceri Evans (All Blacks performance psychiatrist) hasn’t been at his usual morning gym this last few weeks. Presumably he’s been in Japan also.

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    @Victor-Meldrew have to disagree on the Coles break. He totally ran away from any support and didn't even look to come back inside to find his team mates.

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    replied to fcc on last edited by
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    @fcc

    Best analysis ever on the SF

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    Crucial moments :

    • The missed tackle on Daly. It gave England a big momentum, they scored and then on, they never looked back. This first try gave them the confidence they needed.
    • Retallick's missed pass. Had the ball reached Savea, NZ would have scored. At 7-all, this might have forced England to play a tighter game for which the All Blacks were prepared. Instead, the All Blacks lost their collective cohesion, with players trying to change the facet of the game on their own. Accordingly, England's confidence grew even higher.
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