Hansen

[shark]

A garbage post. Fucking garbage.

But time for a full coaching clean out now. Bring in Razor and give him full reign to choose his staff. McLeod may survive but I doubt Razor will want the baggage.

[Bovidae]

It will be interesting to see how Hansen's tenure is rated in time. He has been the coach for a lot of firsts for the ABs, some of those not good (e.g. loses to Ireland).

[Kirwan]

@shark said in Hansen:

A garbage post. Fucking garbage.

But time for a full coaching clean out now. Bring in Razor and give him full reign to choose his staff. McLeod may survive but I doubt Razor will want the baggage.

I think it’s time to step away from Crusader country.

[sparky]

Perhaps too soon for post mortems and obituaries. But here goes.

Hansen's strengths were his organisation and his ability to stay cool and come across as an ordinary Kiwi bloke under fire. He has a good heart and good values.

The weakness was his coaching. I don't think he did much to turn his players into better performing athletes. His side was never really the same after Wayne Smith left. In the end, his selection was found out too.

[Tim]

@shark I am 1000% correct and have been proven so by the continual losses against physical teams.

[Tim]

Hansen's arrogance went through the roof after he won in 2015.

[shark]

Oh and by the way, this post 2015 team just isn't a patch on the previous side stacked with all-time greats. No-one could have done any better with the cattle available. Losing convincingly to a very good England side shouldn't be a major surprise to anyone given the patchy form shown throughout the 2016-19 era and the lesser standard of players available in general.

[Kirwan]

@Tim said in Hansen:

@shark I am 1000% correct and have been proven so by the continual losses against physical teams.

It would funny how predictable it was if it wasn’t a bloody semi final.

I got swept up by the Ireland performance, but smashing a team that lost to Japan means nothing in hindsight

[Tim]

@shark Out coached regularly. Those losses against Ireland were crap.

[Yeetyaah]

@Kirwan holy fuck I agree

[rotated]

@sparky said in Hansen:

The weakness was his coaching. I don't think he did much to turn his players into better performing athletes. His side was never really the same after Wayne Smith left. In the end,his selection was found out too.

As his assistants got weaker (with Smith moving on) he seemingly delegated more. Tough to keep a high performance environment when most player probably rate their super coaches higher than Foz & co.

[shark]

@Tim said in Hansen:

@shark I am 1000% correct and have been proven so by the continual losses against physical teams.

Oh give yourself another pat on the back why don't you?!

[African Monkey]

@shark Yeah, I was saying it too during the game to my wife. Makes you realise how great our side was in the last WC.

[Tim]

@shark I am the oracle.

[Tim]

@Kirwan Absolutely. If you want to beat the best you have to select and coach the best whether they come ready to fit into your systems or not.

[shark]

@Tim said in Hansen:

@shark I am the oracle.

If it helps you process the loss, then you can proclaim yourself to be Jesus if you like.

[sparky]

@rotated

I'm blaming Foz. Razor should have gone with this squad to Japan as part of the coaching set-up.

[Bovidae]

Tell Rennie to come home instead of taking a Wallabies job that no Aussie wants him for.

[Rembrandt]

In a way I've missed this post WC loss blood letting on the fern. Let it out lads, it was disappointing alright. Been a very long time since we've had to drown our sorrows like this.

[rotated]

@shark said in Hansen:

Oh and by the way, this post 2015 team just isn't a patch on the previous side stacked with all-time greats. No-one could have done any better with the cattle available. Losing convincingly to a very good England side shouldn't be a major surprise to anyone given the patchy form shown throughout the 2016-19 era and the lesser standard of players available in general.

Who was the coach throughout the 2016-2019 era before tonight?

This side is no 2015 (and the fact the current team believes they are somehow related to them is probably 25% of the problem) - but two world class locks, experienced loose forward trio and decent skill position backs is more than enough to put together a RWC winner.