RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C)
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@Chester-Draws I had England by 21 in superbru, last try killed my bonus point. Fucking English, fucking Argentinians!!!
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
The pro-England ITV commentary is hilarious.
Going all ga ga over England's pedestrian win over a 14-man Argentinian team who have been on the skids for a couple of seasons.
It's all about selling to, and building, your audience.
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You will never convince me that the current obsession with handing out red cards is a good thing.
They have shifted their interpretation of dangerous play, and how it should be dealt with, a long way from where it used to be. But they haven’t changed the card system. It is no longer fit for purpose.
Add in the inconsistency they are applying it with and it is a complete fucking mess.Straight red cards should be reserved for the worst of the worst. ie. biting, kicking, eye gouging, punching, stomping on a head and deliberate or extremely dangerous foul play eg. A stiff arm to the head.
Tackles that are part of the game but have just been poorly executed in the heat of the game should be dealt with differently. There is absolutely no reason another tier of card allowing for a replacement player after 10min and harsher suspensions wouldn’t work.
Or hey you could even start by not reducing every single ban by 50% because someone dressed nicely for the hearing.I would be very interested in seeing the stats for how often a team has gone on to win after copping a red card before 60 mins. It is so often a death sentence for the contest.
By the way, im not commenting on the red card in this game. Im not watching it because i refused to pay money to watch a RWC which was so clearly going to be tainted by bullshit cards and inconsistent application of the laws.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo It’s not a sport. It’s a business. It’s a big money business. Sorry to disabuse you of your illusions. But that’s the way it is.
Nah. It's a sport. We watch because it's not pre determined.
Don't try and be condescending because you want the sport to be be adjudicated differently.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo Well it is predetermined if a random decision of a referee decides the game. If you want sport for its own sake go to the ground on a Saturday and watch the amateurs.
Yeah. Never watched amateurs and expected them to play within the laws ... or even played amateur footy (or St Peters under 15) and played within the laws.
At this level you expect the elite level athletes to know the laws and play within them.
Sorry to disavow you of your perceptions...
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@pukunui Agree totally. Red cards should be reserved for deliberate foul play. But too often now, we’re seeing them handed out indiscriminately over inches-level judgements pertaining to high tackles. It’s buggered the game. It’s destroyed the spectacle. It’s left the public watching with their hearts in their throats worrying about the height of every tackle instead of appreciating the play in itself.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo Well it is predetermined if a random decision of a referee decides the game. If you want sport for its own sake go to the ground on a Saturday and watch the amateurs.
Firstly, you've edited your post.
Secondly, neither Owens nor World Rugby predetermined the foul play by Lavinini.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo You’re naive mate. Athletes at this level will do what rewards them most. It’s about bucks.
All the more reason to enforce the laws that define the game and keep the players safe
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@booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@booboo You’re naive mate. Athletes at this level will do what rewards them most. It’s about bucks.
All the more reason to enforce the laws that define the game and keep the players safe
Do the current laws really keep the players safe though? Does world rugby think all these red cards are an anomaly as surely no player would ever make a high tackle knowing it costs their team the game?
There will always be high tackles, it's just the way of the game, yes there should be penalties put in place and suspensions but having so many games ruined is not the way forward. -
