RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D)
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I think the bigger picture stinks of arse covering and prioritizing commercial success, in terms of this new pick and choose slo-mo safety crusade.
Be nice to the know the actual vision of what they want the game to look like. The end point or desired outcome.
Only waist high tackles?
No contact above chest high?
Ruck cleanouts?
No dropping your shoulder when carrying the ball?
What, World Rugby, do you want? Because the fecken rulings yesterday, at your signature event, changed in the space of 3 hours and several postcodes away!
What will your safe rugby look like? I'd like to know whether to stick around or not
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I can rant about the refs, or the TMOs, or World Rugby. I don't think any of them covered themselves in glory last night.
But I'd rather rant about our tactics. Our mindless adherence to a one-size-fits-all game plan, while Wales pick us off with smart plays and good execution. Our ten-minute stints of madness where we forget how to pass, catch and tackle. Our complete lack of goalkicking ability.
Wales were the better team, and deserved to win. To my eyes, they are greater than the sum of their parts. I don't think you can say the same about the Wallabies.
I've said it elsewhere, but the Davies intercept was a perfect summation of the difference between the two teams. An incredibly smart tactic that was well-devised and well-executed. They did their homework and capitalised on a weakness of ours.
What did we do? Run the same shit out that we always do, and let the cards fall how they may. It's just not good enough for an international rugby side.
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@barbarian yep, good, i'm done with officialdom now too
The Wallabies are mystifying. They seem so close, and yet so far away. There were some very interesting selections. Genia's ropey wide pass was a killer, and ruthlessly exploited. They caused a lot of problems out wide, the #8 made good metres, and Hooper was a menace. Their set piece was also really strong.
And yet they were constantly chasing the game. Wales got the headstart by arriving at the kickoff ready to play, while the Wallabies took 10 minutes to warm up. Nearly everything Foley touched turned to shit. Pocock was a passenger.
White and Toomua coming on and playing straight really changed that game. And i honestly thought at 65 minutes they would win. And then the errors compounded again (a problem all night, they make errors in clumps) and Wales ground the game in to the dust, very professionally i might add, sign of a good and confident team.
Do you reckon Cheika looks at the opposition at all? Or just relies on the team playing their way to be enough?
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@Rapido said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@Crucial said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
World Rugby should be concerned that Garces and Poite seem to be a part of many of the more controversial moments in games over the past few years.
One of the more astounding things was that Pocockwomble had to talk to Poite at halftime to clarify the words he was using at the rucks. I know there are language differences but that implies that his communication was inconsistent and ambiguous. For a ref of his experience and standing that is quite incredible.
Talking/coaching refs are a stupid idea IMO anyway. Very anglocentric. Very mextedy.
Disagree. In the modern game being told when the ref deems a ruck it standard practice. Hands off is the usual call
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@Crucial said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@Rapido said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@Crucial said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
World Rugby should be concerned that Garces and Poite seem to be a part of many of the more controversial moments in games over the past few years.
One of the more astounding things was that Pocockwomble had to talk to Poite at halftime to clarify the words he was using at the rucks. I know there are language differences but that implies that his communication was inconsistent and ambiguous. For a ref of his experience and standing that is quite incredible.
Talking/coaching refs are a stupid idea IMO anyway. Very anglocentric. Very mextedy.
Disagree. In the modern game being told when the ref deems a ruck it standard practice. Hands off is the usual call
I think he means talking to or trying to coach the refs is a bad idea. Not that the ref should be quiet during open play
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Pocock shouldnt be talking to the ref at halftime anyway, it should be Hooper.
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
Do you reckon Cheika looks at the opposition at all? Or just relies on the team playing their way to be enough?
Nope. I've interviewed him on the GAGR pod and he said as much.
It's such a self-defeating approach to the game in 2019.
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@barbarian said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@mariner4life said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
Do you reckon Cheika looks at the opposition at all? Or just relies on the team playing their way to be enough?
Nope. I've interviewed him on the GAGR pod and he said as much.
It's such a self-defeating approach to the game in 2019.
that is actually astounding
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@mariner4life Yeah crazy but he has repeated it often in interviews. It's as bad as his 'we don't practise kicks because we want to run it in the fair dinkum ozzie way' idea. I think that one may have changed, but he said that several times a few years ago.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@NTA Skeen sounds like it could be a French name.
So does Barrett
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@Snowy said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@sparky said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
Some heroes for Wales tonight. Wyn Jones 23 tackles, Navidi 15 tackles and no misses, Gareth Davies made over 110 running metres from half back.
Because everyone loves a corrector ...
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That's "Jones" or "Alan Wyn" ... mot "Wynn Jones".
His given names are "Alan Wyn".
His surname is "Jones".
I'm helping ...
Umm, yeah, but it's Alun.
You're helping too.
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@booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@Snowy said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@sparky said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
Some heroes for Wales tonight. Wyn Jones 23 tackles, Navidi 15 tackles and no misses, Gareth Davies made over 110 running metres from half back.
Because everyone loves a corrector ...
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That's "Jones" or "Alan Wyn" ... mot "Wynn Jones".
His given names are "Alan Wyn".
His surname is "Jones".
I'm helping ...
Umm, yeah, but it's Alun.
You're helping too.
Stupid Welsh, they are so unused to vowels, they don't even use the right ones
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@Snowy said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@sparky said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
Some heroes for Wales tonight. Wyn Jones 23 tackles, Navidi 15 tackles and no misses, Gareth Davies made over 110 running metres from half back.
Because everyone loves a corrector ...
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That's "Jones" or "Alan Wyn" ... mot "Wynn Jones".
His given names are "Alan Wyn".
His surname is "Jones".
I'm helping ...
Umm, yeah, but it's Alun.
You're helping too.
Stupid Welsh, they are so unused to vowels, they don't even use the right ones
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
The Wallabies are mystifying. They seem so close, and yet so far away.
I'll say this with an asterix because there has been a lot of coming and going during the past eight years... but it is mind boggling to see Genia, Pocock, AAC, O'Connor, Beale, Keepu etc in their third RWC playing with more naivety and less edge than their first. On paper Australia have all the hallmarks of a RWC champion (aside from on field success prior to the tournament!).
Yes, Cheika has his quirks but it's not as though this is a bunch of kids. You have a very experienced core of players who in any other situation would be driving the bus.
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@Snowy said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
@sparky said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):
Some heroes for Wales tonight. Wyn Jones 23 tackles, Navidi 15 tackles and no misses, Gareth Davies made over 110 running metres from half back.
Because everyone loves a corrector ...
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That's "Jones" or "Alan Wyn" ... mot "Wynn Jones".
His given names are "Alan Wyn".
His surname is "Jones".
I'm helping ...
Umm, yeah, but it's Alun.
You're helping too.
Stupid Welsh, they are so unused to vowels, they don't even use the right ones
Kiwi says whut?
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@mariner4life put a sock in it sweetie!
Oops, soz, wrong thread.
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@mariner4life agree, I though the Wallabies were going to roll over the top of them. Thought White wasn't as good as he has been, but he was heaps better than Genia, and Toomua was great, so direct.
That said, the Welsh really stopped playing in the 2nd half, like they were just trying to defend the lead. Played with none of the width they had so much first half success with.
As an aside, so good to see the Wallabies hoist up a couple of defensive lineouts in their own half, it feels like a lost art these days!
