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    @junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

    Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.

    Are you really concerned after seeing that?

    How can the Irish believe they can beat the All Blacks or the Boks when they can’t beat Japan? They aren’t French, who can shake a result off like that, their team is mentally farked now.

    I think they're farked if they play the Boks, but they know they have the right plan to beat us - all they have to do is lay it all on the line and execute. Either way, they're not winning it from here. As I said, they won't beat the Boks and, even if they do beat us (which they may very well do), they won't be able to get up again for England in the semi.

    Do they? We aren’t playing the same way we did when they got us in Dublin. Plus all the pressure of never making a semi will play on them.

    Bring it on.

    I think they do - it's not dissimilar to what the Boks have done successfully against us in the past 2 years. It didn't work last week, but that doesn't mean that it no longer works. Also, there remain questions about Reece's and Bridge's ability under the high ball, which is a key part of Ireland's game plan. Set piece is also an area where they can shade us.

    The issue with Ireland is that all of the areas where we are comparatively weak, they are very strong - that's why a QF against them is a massive risk for us.

    Perhaps you could explain the strengths of their game and the weaknesses of ours with reference to our mutual last few tests.

    This wasn't the squeaky bum test every champion has on their way to winning the pot, this was a loss to Japan.

    I'm not saying Ireland are going to win the tourney - in fact I expressly said they wouldn't!

    What I am saying is that they could still beat us, because they are a decent enough team, with a game plan that has shown itself to be quite effective against us in the recent past.

    As for their relative strengths, they're obvious - scrum, line out, mauls, box kicking - indeed kicking in general - and ability under the high ball. If they beat us in all of those areas in a RWC QF, they're right in the hunt and its going to take a massive effort to beat them.

    Yes I agree that they're better than their last outing, but it signifies that they have no plan B and let's be honest: If Japan can nullify their game plan, so can we - even if rhey improve.

    The big difference is what Hansen has been cleverly banging on about; we're used to that sort of pressure.

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    Looking at the draw, Scotland have only a four day turnaround between playing Russia and Japan while Japan has eight days off before they play Scotland. Yikes, player management for that Russia game is crucial if Scotland are to have any chance.

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    Ireland just don't have the fitness. Their legs were gone at 35 minutes, and the halftime break didn't really make as much of a difference. In the second half the Japanese 6 was making ground with just about every carry. Plus Ireland's lock just seem a bit soft

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    @LABCAT said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Thank you Japan!!! you have made this tournament far more exciting for me!!

    I was starting to think it will be boring until the semis for NZ but if you can beat Scotland (which I believe you can) then the quarter final becomes far more exciting because there is actually a chance we can lose to Ireland.

    There’s actually a chance we can beat Ireland. Which is great isn’t it.

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    @NTA said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Ireland Schmidt the bed.

    Post Of The Day

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    @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful

    Was on the ITV coverage.

    He had the look of a man who's swallowed a wasp during during a live TV interview and that distracted him from the fact he's also having a severe bowel spasm.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful

    Was on the ITV coverage.

    He had the look of a man who's swallowed a wasp during during a live TV interview and that distracted him from the fact he's also having a severe bowel spasm.

    But he was all class

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    But he was all class

    Yeah, thought he handled quite well, though his emotions were obvious.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    But he was all class

    Yeah, thought he handled quite well, though his emotions were obvious.

    Rather that than a talking head who doesn't give a toss either way

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.

    This. Looked to me other teams had worked out Ireland in the last 6N's

    I think it's more age and injuries that have caught up with some of Ireland's key players.

    While they have Sexton to hopefully come back, its the likes of Best, Healy, Stander, Kearney, Murray and O’Mahony that haven't being playing well in 2019 - effectively half the team.

    England destroyed Ireland in the 6N's and August friendly's and Scotland ran them close in teh 6N, which was why I was surprised to see such a poor Scottish display last week.

    It will be interesting to see how Ireland cope with Samoa. If Samoa manage to keep a full team on the field, I think Ireland will struggle.

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    @PecoTrain
    The big game is Japan vs Scotland IMO. A lot of possible permutations from today's result, with Ireland, Scotland and Japan all potentially being 1st, 2nd, or being knocked out. Samoa too, though I can't see them toppling 2 of Japan, Ireland and Scotland.

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    @mofitzy_ said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @PecoTrain
    The big game is Japan vs Scotland IMO. A lot of possible permutations from today's result, with Ireland, Scotland and Japan all potentially being 1st, 2nd, or being knocked out. Samoa too, though I can't see them toppling 2 of Japan, Ireland and Scotland.

    Samoa beating Scotland would be interesting. They would have all to play for vs Ireland.

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    @Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Seeing Schmidt with the shakes in the coaching box, he doesn't look well eh. Parkinsons? Motor neuron?

    Either would explain why he is retiring.

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    I honestly think that NH teams underestimate the mental strain of being number 1 and the expectations that come with it. You get the sense that ABs players and management are in the best mental space right now because they have dealt with it for years in and out of the World Cup. The weight of expectation was just to much for Ireland.

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    I'm all but counting Scotland out - they have been struggling in 2019 and two injuries from their game with Ireland makes it even harder.

    Even if Ireland had won today, I would have put Japan as favourites against Scotland.

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    @sparky

    Schmidt has said he wishes to spend more time with his family and their parents given the time away from NZ - this probably gives the best explanation.

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    @PecoTrain Hadn't heard any speculation about his health before today.

    I suspect he will become a media pundit, mostly based in NZ. Decent money, less stress and all-consuming than coaching.

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    For all those concerned about Ireland in the QF, I'm moderately relaxed. We just have to score points - last time we only got 9 against them. If we get 9 points, we lose, and well played Ireland.

    This time, I think the conditions will suti us better (hotter), our prep is better, and mentally we shold be right up for it. Good luck Ireland, they'll have a big game in them, but it's going to be tough for them to exit the pool fresh and determined after Samoa and Scotland to play yet.

    Our attack looks transformed from last year. We have unlocked the rush against SA, and I beleive we'll do it again soon.

    What a tournament!

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    @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

    Potentially yes. But I think Ireland’s gameplan has been found out. They also rely on sexton who has been under an injury cloud. They also can’t take the Samoa game for granted so only Russia can get the B team. If they play like today though, NZ wouldn’t be losing.

    How many of the team that just lost to Japan were their best team or was it all second stringers? Just wondering if total lack of depth partially explains the loss.

    Main omission Sexton. Seems essential for ireland nowadays.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful

    Was on the ITV coverage.

    He had the look of a man who's swallowed a wasp during during a live TV interview and that distracted him from the fact he's also having a severe bowel spasm.

    He could have died.

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