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  • NTAN Offline
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    <p>What is the difference between kick returner and punt returner?</p>

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    <p>Kick returner returns kickoffs only (at the start/half and after points have been scored) whereas punt returners return punts (when the opposition punt of 4th down). Sometimes it is the same person. Sometimes not.</p>

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    <p>Ah right - thanks for that. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But aren't the roles pretty much the same in terms of "catch it somewhere near your line, run the fuck out of it and use the blockers" ?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I suppose there are less blockers on a punt.</p>

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    <p>Yeah - also general kick return is seen as a more dangerous role - as is more of a case of the opposition flying down the field from 70 yards away whereas from a punt there are more variables.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So much so that the NFL have actually changed the rules to bring the spot of the kickoff closer to the endzone so that it is more likely to result in the ball being kicked dead (resulting in an automatic start from the 20 yard line) or result in the opposition taking a knee inside the endzone (also resulting in an automatic start from the 20 yard line) - fewer 'live' kickoffs hopefully resulting in fewer injuries.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So you might sometimes see a star player on punt return but not kickoff return due to injury risk. Not that it matters much at present in Hayne's case - as Hayne is not a star worth protecting at this point - however when Reggie Bush comes back he may take over punt returns (although not if Hayne keeps returning like vs Arizona).</p>

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    <p>Yeah that was apparently some run - the Yanks were blowing their load over it, and I understand its longer than the average return.</p>
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    <p>What I saw was a bloke who was used to identifying space, making a quick decision, and putting in a good effort. That's bread and butter for someone like Hayne, with the added benefit of blockers. He must love that shit.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="521632" data-time="1443591239">
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    <p>Yeah that was apparently some run - the Yanks were blowing their load over it, and I understand its longer than the average return.</p>
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    <p>What I saw was a bloke who was used to identifying space, making a quick decision, and putting in a good effort. That's bread and butter for someone like Hayne, with the added benefit of blockers. He must love that shit.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Mundine's better than Hayne... apparently</p>

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    <p>The 49ers Special Teams coach has made comment about Hayne as punt returner vs kick returner</p>
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    <p>“Not to say Jarryd can’t do it, but that’s not his strong suit,” 49ers special teams co-ordinator Thomas McGaughey told reporters on Wednesday (US time). </p>
    <p>“His strong suit is punt return and that’s what we are going to continue to make him flourish in.”</p>
    <p>“If you look at the space in a punt return, it’s a lot more as opposed to the space in a kick-off return,” McGaughey said.</p>
    <p>“It can get real tight in a hurry in kick-off returns.</p>
    <p>“That’s still something he’s still trying to get a feel for. I think his strength is punt return and that’s what we are going to do.”</p>
    <p>“Jarryd is our best punt catcher,” McGaughey said.</p>
    <p>“He fields the ball naturally. I mean, you saw the one he caught over his shoulder in the pre-season game.</p>
    <p>“The first ball he put on the ground was the one he did in the game. Since he’s been here I hadn’t seen him drop one in practice.”</p>
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    <p>I reckon he could do both.  What is one of the primary tasks of a RL fullback?  Kick returns of all types against a rushing line of defence with no blockers.  Come on coach, put him in the game!!</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
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    <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I reckon he could do both.  What is one of the primary tasks of a RL fullback?  Kick returns of all types against a rushing line of defence with no blockers.  Come on coach, put him in the game!!</span></blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>As long as he knows to take a knee if he catches the ball in the endzone and not feel the need to run it out. No goal line drop out in Yankball.</p>

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    <p>Bit pointy for the dropout, the pigskin.</p>

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    <p>So week 4 kicks off the NFL's London series with Jets V Dolphins on Sunday (UK time) and with the RWC going on the two sports will no doubt get compared by all the journos from Yankeeland and Pomgolia. NFL will struggle this weekend for media time in UK due to England V Australia on Saturday night (UK time).</p>

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    <p>49ers with another horrible offensive performance - their worst offensive game since 1964 apparently. Their defense played quite well against the best QB in the game Rodgers but their offense has so many problems - their offensive line is trash, their coordinator looks overmatched and Kaepernick looks he is close to being spent as a starter in 49er-land. A few more weeks of this and something will give.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>In other notable results, the giants beat the Bills (who had a few players out injured), the Skins beat the Eagles to leave Philly 1-3, Rams beat the high-flying Cardinals and Houston's QB back and forth continues with Hoyer replacing Mallett. </p>

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    <p>Lottery hopefuls San Francisco got humbled today by their rival Seattle Seahawks 20-3 on TNF. Jarryd Hayne was not active for the game, so Australia can use that as the reason the 49ers lost. Starting to think the Hayne Plane is struggling with the stop/start/stop/start/stop/tv break/timeout break/start/no stop tv break again/start/stop nature of the NFL.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Think you're onto it there sneak. But saw forager of his fumble from last week and that "holds ball away from body" is a flaw he needs to address.<br><br>
    What do I know? Ex prop who just saw some 20-something girl's arse at a lingerie waitress bar and zero NFL appreciation time. You go, girl. YOU GO!

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    Really Mundine the best athlete Australia's ever produced...fuck me now I've heard it all...to funny.

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    <p>They lost the rugby union , now Australia's greatest ever athlete has been cut by the San Francisco 49ers. Tbh anyone watching the NFL saw this coming this week. The head coach who's name I can't remember is panicking because he's probably going to be fired after one season and couldn't wait for Hayne to develop.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Hayne back in the NRL in 2016 is my guess. Other option is he signs a one year deal to play 7s for Aussie.</p>

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    <p>Bogans everywhere are warming up the FuckenSeppoC***s-O-Meter as we speak.</p>
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="537560" data-time="1446326406">
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    <p>Hayne back in the NRL in 2016 is my guess. Other option is he signs a one year deal to play 7s for Aussie.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Not sure if he meets criteria for that. Would all need to happen pretty fast, and not sure the Tahs have any room on the roster.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>:think:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Fucking hell imagine if he DID go to rugby. The screeching from the NRL would be harpy-like!</p>

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    <p>He could always try the CFL.</p>

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  • canefanC Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="537560" data-time="1446326406"><p>They lost the rugby union , now Australia's greatest ever athlete has been cut by the San Francisco 49ers. Tbh anyone watching the NFL saw this coming this week. The head coach who's name I can't remember is panicking because he's probably going to be fired after one season and couldn't wait for Hayne to develop.<br>
     <br>
    Hayne back in the NRL in 2016 is my guess. Other option is he signs a one year deal to play 7s for Aussie.</p></blockquote>Tomsula is drowning, Baalke should be fired, the only reason why York is safe is he owns them. Does Hayne still get his money?

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    <p>He could always try the CFL.</p>
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    <p>Is that still a thing? :)</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Does Hayne still get his money? </span></blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Probably a certain % but I doubt he will get all of it.</p>

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