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    @NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe #2:

    Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy throwing your money away

    Fixed.

    Really? They bring it like last week, they're easily a shot

    Edit: and what if we get a card again? huh? What about that? eh?

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    @nzzp Is Jerome Garces reffing?

    Both our red cards in the modern era have come from him...not that he had much choice in either incident, but interesting...

    Wonder what are our YC stats are like under him?

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    @taniwharugby They are saving Garces for the RWC match vs SA. Peyper.

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    @Bovidae they should save Garces for French schoolboy rugby.

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    @NTA OI!!! Reverse psychology is my bag. 😡

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    I have my expectations set pretty low, so will be pleasantly surprised if we retain the Bledisloe with this comedy backline. Seriously, has Fosters fingerprints all over it, feels like they are trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

    At least the human statue got replaced in the front row.

    Should be an interesting crowd to be part of, I think it might get pretty hostile out there, won't be fun for Aussie.

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    @dogmeat said in Bledisloe #2:

    @NTA OI!!! Reverse psychology is my bag. 😡

    Beaten to the punch, like last weekend.

    But it won't happen. ABs won't play that bad again, wobs won't play that well, particularly in damp conditions.

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    @NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe #2:

    Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy throwing your money away

    Fixed.

    Stop it.

    We're the underdogs.

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    @Duluth

    Def need a real 10. Doubt if Ireland probbly would have turned us over in Chicago if we'd had a real lock.

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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

    @Paekakboyz You'd think that if Ennor was on the inside track he'd be playing in this game. If he gets picked it will be on the back of 12 minutes of test rugby.

    I'm not sure what they will do with Josh Ioane - but, if Beauden is the first choice fullback then surely you have to take Ioane to play some time in the minnow games - well, that's what I'd think.

    From the way Hansen was talking about what if Ben or Rieko blow hamstrings or tyres, I'd say they're pretty safe - so from the 17 backs in the frame (original 16 picks + Crotty) I'd think three miss out and it will be a midfielder and two outside backs - I reckon Laumape, Ennor and one of Bridge or Reece or just possibly Jordie.

    Leaving:
    Smith, Perenara, Weber
    Mo'unga, J. Ioane
    SBW, Crotty, Goodhue, ALB
    B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Smith, Bridge*, J. Barrett

    • or Reece

    Interesting take, but I tend to agree with others that Ioane will be on standby.

    I think for 12/13 things will come down to Crotty (injuries permitting) or Laumape. Of course SBW/Kerevi could influence that.

    Precedent would suggest five 'back three', in which case Reece and Ennor are probably competing for last place. Jordie's utility value -- 10/14/15 -- would probably get him in. Reece has the X factor TWM are looking for but how he goes against Koroibete will be a big factor.

    But as you suggest, four at back would allow four locks to cover BBBR, although one would also need to cover 6. At that point it gets very interesting as I think Benda/Rieko/Bridge safe, meaning that last place would be a real fight.

    Ennor's lack of gametime doesn't bode well.

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe #2:

    @Bovidae they should save Garces for French schoolboy rugby.

    Whinging poms Kiwis

    The guy is a decent ref, and the forum is pathetic the way people whine on all the time about him.

    Let's not mention the NZ Herald with their "wasn't a red card" crusade this week, and you can see why Stephen Jones whips himself up into a state of frenzy.

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    @Billy-Tell No ref should ever “make a deal” that contravenes the laws of the game. He has to live with that shit just like we do.

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  • MachpantsM Online
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    every country does one eyed, every franchise, every region, every club. Anyone who goes holier than thou on parochialism is a Muppet.

    Who gives a fuck what wannabe Englishman boyo Jones says

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    @pakman more importantly, I don't believe we've won a world cup without someone born overseas in the back 5. Reece it is.

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    @pakman It's the other @Chris who is talking about 4 locks and 6 loosies, and it's far from a bad theory. I hadn't really thought about an 18-13 split, but he could easily be right and I follow the logic if Big Brodie is a bit marginal.

    But, IMO the rest of the structure is a bit of an arse cover - "Oh, we didn't have three decent 10s once Damien was injured". If they don't select Ioane and it burns us, I'm going to say it was a dumb selection. I can't see where the relative upside among an extra outside backs is.

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    @Chris-B I wouldn't discount J Ioane from selection just because he hasn't played yet. In hindsight they should have brought him on in BA in a close test but I can understand why they didn't want to put him in that situation. Three 1st 5s were taken in 2015, with Slade filling that 1st 5/fullback role that DMac would of this year, and BB now does. In 2011, only 2 1st 5s were selected but we ended up using 4. Weepu did provide cover, as TJP might.

    You can easily cover for a winger (e.g., ALB) so I wouldn't be selecting too many specialist wingers. I wouldn't be surprised if JB has been discussed by the coaches as a 1st 5 option for the lesser pool games if J Ioane isn't chosen.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Bovidae Yeah - we're still discussing hypotheticals.

    I can see why they haven't used him yet - but, I'm still advocating, and even expecting, that they'll pick him in the final squad.

    Of course, if we lose tomorrow due to our forwards getting their arses handed to them, then I'll probably look like even more of a rugby savant and Steve can pm me. 🙂

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  • MachpantsM Online
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    When the RWC squad named,, or have to be named by?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    If J Ioane is selected give him the Tongan game and put BB and RM in cotton wool.

    A few players will be released to play M10 Cup after this test. There will be 3 weeks between Bled II and that test so time for a couple of games for those players.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @Billy-Tell oh well, fuck off then if it is such a problem for you.

    You whinge and bitch about players, why cant people express thier views on how the ref went too?

    I already said above I felt he had no choice in the RC.

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