TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)
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@MN5 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@pukunui said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@MN5 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Do you consider a Test Match vs Italy a serious game?
Especially one which ends up being 3-66....
Italy are Tier 2 nation with a tier 1 Economy
They're mere cannon fodder in 6 NationsMoreover when was the last match you saw an ABs side spend 30 seconds in an opponents 22 in 2nd half a Test Match
Pumas set up camp on ABs 40 metre linePumas 2nd half mauling was for nothing as they made too many errors when they had the pill I look forward to play NZ in Buenos Aires in 2020 with a very similar side
What has Italy got to do with a single thing you have posted above ?
Italy appear to be part of the massive chip he has on his shoulder over other teams that occupy the same tier as Argentina. Japan and Scotland being the others.
But 2020 is going to be the year the Pumas/Jaguares DOMINATE! Or maybe 2021 or 2022 or 2023. No one else stands a chance because they are all rubbish or their players will be past it by then.
Nice projection there
Find me a response on TSF where I've mentioned Italy beforehand.... I have no interest in Italian rugby beyond them being bottom feeders in 6 Nations
Likewise I have no care in the world for Scottish & Japanese rugby beyond both sides importing 2nd rate Mercenaries for their national side
So not unlike Argentina in the 4N then ?
To an extent Yes
But remember teams in TRC are of a much higher quality than in 6 Nations & travel itinerary is rough for the Pumas to boot
Moreover Pumas were playing TRC before Super Rugby so there was little prep to adjust playing style and conditioning for the comp Add a lame duck head coach post 2015 RWC and you have 6 years of futility
Only in last 18 months has there been a semblance of continuity in ARG rugby Time will how Quesada + Ledesma coaching ticket improves ARG rugby overall
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@gt12 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
I'm guessing, but I assume that everyone picked will get at least some opportunity (perhaps not Aumua), so the team I'd run out - given that the coaches have said clearly that they don't value the RC - is:
- Moody
- Taylor
- Franks
- Hemopo (this would be the game to find out if he has Brad Thornism or not)
- Whitelock
- Frizzel
- Todd
- Read (c)
- TJP
- Mo'unga
- R. Ioane/ Bridge
- SBW
- Goodhue
- Bridge/ Ioane
- B. Smith
- Coles (Aumua)
- Karl T.
- Laulala/Ta'vao
- Retallick
- Paps
- A. Smith
- Ioane
- B. Barrett/Laumape
Would be pretty interesting if they give Mo'unga the start at 10 in probably the toughest test before RWC.
If he did really well, would Hansen then contemplate giving him a Bledisloe test and a chance at usurping Beauden? I'm still sceptical, but Richie is in a sort of similar place as Ardie Savea - and to win the RWC again Hansen may need to throw caution (and some experience) to the wind.
Aside from this - I don't see Hemopo starting over Retallick; I suspect Matt Todd is only going to be an injury call-up, so probably won't make the 23; not sure what Frizell's status is - he played club rugby last weekend, but only half a game, so I'd think at best a bench option - maybe they will start Jacobson; I'd expect Sam Cane to start and Ardie from the bench - or possibly vice-versa. I don't see both Barrett and Ioane on the bench (assuming that Barrett doesn't start - which is my guess - that he will).
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@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@MN5 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@pukunui said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@MN5 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Do you consider a Test Match vs Italy a serious game?
Especially one which ends up being 3-66....
Italy are Tier 2 nation with a tier 1 Economy
They're mere cannon fodder in 6 NationsMoreover when was the last match you saw an ABs side spend 30 seconds in an opponents 22 in 2nd half a Test Match
Pumas set up camp on ABs 40 metre linePumas 2nd half mauling was for nothing as they made too many errors when they had the pill I look forward to play NZ in Buenos Aires in 2020 with a very similar side
What has Italy got to do with a single thing you have posted above ?
Italy appear to be part of the massive chip he has on his shoulder over other teams that occupy the same tier as Argentina. Japan and Scotland being the others.
But 2020 is going to be the year the Pumas/Jaguares DOMINATE! Or maybe 2021 or 2022 or 2023. No one else stands a chance because they are all rubbish or their players will be past it by then.
Nice projection there
Find me a response on TSF where I've mentioned Italy beforehand.... I have no interest in Italian rugby beyond them being bottom feeders in 6 Nations
Likewise I have no care in the world for Scottish & Japanese rugby beyond both sides importing 2nd rate Mercenaries for their national side
So not unlike Argentina in the 4N then ?
To an extent Yes
But remember teams in TRC are of a much higher quality than in 6 Nations & travel itinerary is rough for the Pumas to boot
Moreover Pumas were playing TRC before Super Rugby so there was little prep to adjust playing style and conditioning for the comp Add a lame duck head coach post 2015 RWC and you have 6 years of futility
Only in last 18 months has there been a semblance of continuity in ARG rugby Time will how Quesada + Ledesma coaching ticket improves ARG rugby overall
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........
Wales, Ireland and England are 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the world. Which I admit is below the All Blacks......but above South Africa and Australia.
But then rankings don't matter so how do you assess quality ?
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It's alot easier to beat Italy Scotland France than NZ Australia & Argentina
I assess quality at Rugby World Cups
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@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
It's alot easier to beat Italy Scotland France than NZ Australia & Argentina
I assess quality at Rugby World Cups
No it's not.
Scotland have beaten Argentina five times in a row now.
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I'm still so deflated from the CWC farce that I'm struggling to get excited about sport at the moment. I was basically emotionless watching the AB v Arg game. Then again it was only Argentina, I was pretty confident they wouldn't have the mental capacity to get over the line, which is how it eventuated.
Hopefully the old foe can spark some excitement again.
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@No-Quarter Same here.
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@No-Quarter said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
I'm still so deflated from the CWC farce that I'm struggling to get excited about sport at the moment. I was basically emotionless watching the AB v Arg game. Then again it was only Argentina, I was pretty confident they wouldn't have the mental capacity to get over the line, which is how it eventuated.
Hopefully the old foe can spark some excitement again.
You can't allow fucking accountants to control your life.
I watched the game. I saw what happened.
After that, England won (apparently). Here's the winning moment...
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@No-Quarter said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
I'm still so deflated from the CWC farce that I'm struggling to get excited about sport at the moment. I was basically emotionless watching the AB v Arg game. Then again it was only Argentina, I was pretty confident they wouldn't have the mental capacity to get over the line, which is how it eventuated.
Hopefully the old foe can spark some excitement again.
Watch the Warriors bro, that’s where the real excitement will be this Saturday.
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@ACT-Crusader said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Watch the Warriors bro, that’s where the real excitement will be this Saturday.
The guy is on the brink of sporting suicide and you want to push him?
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@Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@ACT-Crusader said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Watch the Warriors bro, that’s where the real excitement will be this Saturday.
The guy is on the brink of sporting suicide and you want to push him?
Mate we are making our big run to finish 9th. What more can one ask for
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Danie Gerber + Andre Joubert =
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@Bovidae love this bit:
Barrett kicked all four of his shots at goal in the All Blacks' 20-16 win over the Pumas in Buenos Aires last weekend, but White suggested the pressure will intensify for the upcoming match.
"For example, people say Beauden Barrett's goal-kicking isn't that bad, and they're right when his team scores five tries and he converts two," White added.
"But it will be a different picture when the All Blacks only score two tries and he misses both, and that's what happens when there's pressure."
In a game we won by scoring 2 tries, he mentions that if we dont score 5 it ramps up the pressure....
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All Blacks team to play South Africa: Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Matt Todd, Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody. Reserves: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Angus Ta'avao, Vaea Fifita, Dalton Papalii, Aaron Smith, Anton Lienert-Brown, George Bridge.
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Oh I love the 10/15 combo. @Chris-B we thought it wouldn't happen... they must have been reading our posts
