TRC: Pumas v All Blacks
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@broughie said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
We did not establish go forward close to the ruck. Spread the ball wide too often when it was not on. Reece was good for the Crusaders but international rugby? When our other Fijians came through you immediately thought yes they can impact the game. I think he is too small. Pumas defense was good but all backline defenses are hard to break these days so that’s is why we need to establish more front foot ball. ennor is going to be the goods.
Spot on. We also have some great forward runners. Those tactics worked beautifully in the first test against the Lions.
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@98blueandgold said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are sameLargely agree Game was reminiscent of their last 2 games on 2018 EOYT
Eng and Ire played a similar game and both sides were the better side
Sadly for Pumas they did not take their chances and lost the game like Eng
ABs had 23 turnovers & about 13-14 handling errors There was definitely an air of panic in their attack ALOT of 50-50 passes being chucked around carelessly Albeit under immense defensive duress by ARG
Gap has closed btw ABs and rest of Tier 1 nations post 2015 RWC
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@Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
Ardie and stand out for being good. Jordie a stand out for being a waste of space.
Ardie, BBBR and A Smith top 3 for me. Cane close behind.
Hated this forcing passes in traffic tactic thoughI don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.
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@Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@98blueandgold said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are sameLargely agree Game was reminiscent of their last 2 games on 2018 EOYT
Eng and Ire played a similar game and both sides were the better side
Sadly for Pumas they did not take their chances and lost the game like Eng
ABs had 23 turnovers & about 13-14 handling errors There was definitely an air of panic in their attack ALOT of 50-50 passes being chucked around carelessly Albeit under immense defensive duress by ARG
Gap has closed btw ABs and rest of Tier 1 nations post 2015 RWC
Do you not understand the concept of keeping your powder dry?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.
Probably given his 60 odd test record of quality play you aren't going to crucify a guy for dropping one ball in his first test back from massive back surgery? Just to see him out there not looking massively off the pace is a huge win IMO.
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@sparky said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
One of the worst All Black performance of all-time from Fifita. Totally out of his depth at this level.
Reminiscent of Sione Lauaki (RIP) vs Wallabies in Sydney
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@Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
I actually think Reece had a good game. He got very few opportunities, but his much-criticised defence was good and he didn't make errors like other players.
Have to agree. I was tempted to say in a game like that where such limited ball made it pass the centres anyone was going to look good on the wing if they just made their tackles... but then there is Jordie...
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@Rancid-Schnitzel Ardie is our best player atm.
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@rotated said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.
Probably given his 60 odd test record of quality play you aren't going to crucify a guy for dropping one ball in his first test back from massive back surgery? Just to see him out there not looking massively off the pace is a huge win IMO.
Ah no, I'm not, but that's standard here for some player. But fark me a 60 odd test AB and captain should not be dropping those. That was schoolboy stuff and was massive opportunity missed.
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@rotated said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
I actually think Reece had a good game. He got very few opportunities, but his much-criticised defence was good and he didn't make errors like other players.
Have to agree. I was tempted to say in a game like that where such limited ball made it pass the centres anyone was going to look good on the win if they just made their tackles... but then there is Jordie...
He was okay but he's not sniffing the 31 man squad with a game like that
Bender was NZ best backline player alongside B BarrettJordie Barrett at wing won't be happening again Beyond having a big boot he looks lost at sea He might look flash vs Mickey Mouse side like Italy but not in BA
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@Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@98blueandgold said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are sameLargely agree Game was reminiscent of their last 2 games on 2018 EOYT
Eng and Ire played a similar game and both sides were the better side
Sadly for Pumas they did not take their chances and lost the game like Eng
ABs had 23 turnovers & about 13-14 handling errors There was definitely an air of panic in their attack ALOT of 50-50 passes being chucked around carelessly Albeit under immense defensive duress by ARG
Gap has closed btw ABs and rest of Tier 1 nations post 2015 RWC
Do you not understand the concept of keeping your powder dry?
Fire away as you seem to know something I'm missing out on.........
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Just watched the Ardie shoulder charge incident again. Disgraceful. Happened right in front of Gardner and he just waved it on. Could very easily have led to a try.
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@booboo said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Rebound said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
Angus Gardener is such a shit coach. Pulling penalty calls out of his ass. Offside and playing the guy in the air at the end
Don't think he was that bad
Agree
Don't see what all the whinging is all about
If he missed anything then his AR's + TMO should have spotted it
Failing that players get cited
Folks are making a mountain of a molehill
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@kev said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader Don’t think so. Romano has been off the pace for some time. Hall hasn’t yet made it and the two in front of him deserve their place.
That whooshing sound ...
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@rotated said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.
Probably given his 60 odd test record of quality play you aren't going to crucify a guy for dropping one ball in his first test back from massive back surgery? Just to see him out there not looking massively off the pace is a huge win IMO.
Ah no, I'm not, but that's standard here for some player. But fark me a 60 odd test AB and captain should not be dropping those. That was schoolboy stuff and was massive opportunity missed.
I have no idea how Ritchie McCaw lasted so long in the ABs. Must have been teachers pet or summink
That guy used to drop them cold too.
Bloody favourites.
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@Hooroo said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@rotated said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.
Probably given his 60 odd test record of quality play you aren't going to crucify a guy for dropping one ball in his first test back from massive back surgery? Just to see him out there not looking massively off the pace is a huge win IMO.
Ah no, I'm not, but that's standard here for some player. But fark me a 60 odd test AB and captain should not be dropping those. That was schoolboy stuff and was massive opportunity missed.
I have no idea how Ritchie McCaw lasted so long in the ABs. Must have been teachers pet or summink
That guy used to drop them cold too.
Bloody favourites.
After 60 tests and as captain? I don't think so. You seem to have this image of McCaw circa 2003 and can't get it out of your brain.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Hooroo said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@rotated said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.
Probably given his 60 odd test record of quality play you aren't going to crucify a guy for dropping one ball in his first test back from massive back surgery? Just to see him out there not looking massively off the pace is a huge win IMO.
Ah no, I'm not, but that's standard here for some player. But fark me a 60 odd test AB and captain should not be dropping those. That was schoolboy stuff and was massive opportunity missed.
I have no idea how Ritchie McCaw lasted so long in the ABs. Must have been teachers pet or summink
That guy used to drop them cold too.
Bloody favourites.
After 60 tests and as captain? I don't think so. You seem to have this image of McCaw circa 2003 and can't get it out of your brain.
No. No I don’t. He also dropped the ball in his prime. Sometimes knocked it on. I’ve also seen Brodie drop it stone cold too. Maybe we should retrospectively lambast him for a one off event
