Stormers v Crusaders
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@Stargazer Rigged - most certainly.
@Rebound SA audience worth it? Probably. At least NZ & what is the left of the burning embers of Aus rugby think so too.
But hey, this is not a new concept. We've lived with playing conditions like this in SA for ever. Well as long as I can remember anyhow.
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@Machpants said in Stormers v Crusaders:
So neutral ref in SA, thank fuck
Unfortunately, not the other officials. vd Westhuizen and Jonker are definitely a recipe for disaster to any non-SA team visiting the Republic.
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FFS. Compelling evidence that pass went back out of hands. Why are SA TMOs always so bent?
Ennor is a star in the making IMHO.
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There’s even a frigging demo video on world rugby website showing a pass usually goes forward even though passed backward.
Don’t think it matters in the grand scheme of things but that TMO should be stood down.
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The video with the disallowed try is in this article.
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Thank Fu-k The Crusaders are out of SA now quite fortunate to have secured a Bonus point win and a Draw due to the SA officials blatant Hometown decisions not just Jonker but Van der Westhuizen who pinged the Crusaders 4 times for being offside and apparently the Stormers were never offside. And he over ruled Berry on a collapsed maul getting the Stormers a penalty.
Even the last penalty by Berry was dubious.
The Penalty count against The Highlanders in the game before with SA officials was horrendous .
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@Kirwan said in Stormers v Crusaders:
Just saw the highlights of this game. If Super Rugby is to be taken seriously as a competition they need to reintroduce neutral refs (including the TMO).
Pass was backwards out of the hands, so not a forward pass.
Crusaders robbed IMO.
No comment
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Clearly not a forward pass, but we weren’t great anyway and should have won the game before that. After showing amazing form at the start of the season we haven’t looked great since the loss to the tahs.
Scott Barrett totally dominated physically and at set piece by etzebeth, he’s never going to be big enough to be a dominant international lock.
We missed Reads presence from last week, Whetu Douglas and Romano showed good physicality when they came on. I think Douglas has surpassed Taufua as our best 6.
Backline looked way better with ennor on instead of Crotty (who looked slow). Ennor is going to be a great player, he’s improved so much this year.
Ollie Jager is a weakling.
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If a Stormer threw that pass and it wasn't called forward there would be a meltdown on here. It went two metres forward.
That last high tackle he hit him on the chin.
The real crime was why the hell didn't the Crusaders take the 3 right on halftime. Turning down 3 and going for a lineout drive after the hooter was super dumb and high risk. Same error the Blues made last week.
Bloody good crowd. A real atmosphere.
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Very poor call from the TMO - no big deal in the greater scheme of Super rugby 2019, but in a World Cup knock out match, worse than Wayne Barnes.
It's somewhat concerning how much the Crusaders have struggled with the physicality of the Jaapies in the last few weeks, given the number of All Blacks in our pack. That Peter Steph du Toit is a bloody good blindside.
I guess the scrum was always going to be a worry with three of our top four props out. Bower struggled to keep it up - Allan and Jager are currently no better than NPC props and Jager possibly only a bench prop at that level. After three years in the squad, he should be able to step up to replace Owen Franks, but he's clearly not ready for that.
First 20 minutes were terrible from the Crusaders - full of forced and unforced errors. Looked like they'd found some form through the middle stages and were about to run away with it. Stormers hung in there, but in the last 10 minutes we should have scored twice (did of course score once) as we started opening them up a bit.
No Crusaders stand out as having great games - Bridge, Ennor and Whitelock probably the best.
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@KiwiMurph feels like we have entered the Twilight Zone and gong back a dozen or so years with that discussion...
