Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Paekakboyz said in Aussie Rugby in general:
dude moves in mysterious ways bro!
God's will bro. God's will.
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Israel Folau has requested a code of conduct hearing in a response to a Rugby Australia breach notice. Folau had until 2pm AEST on Wednesday to respond to the notice wand the star fullback indicated he would not be accepting Rugby Australia's sanction, forcing the matter to a hearing. Had he accepted the notice, Folau's contract would have been terminated without any financial compensation. In a statement on Wednesday, Rugby Australia said a date was yet to be set for the hearing, at which a three-person panel will determine whether Folau has breached the Code Of Conduct to the point that he warrants termination. "Rugby Australia will now make arrangements with the Rugby Union Players' Association (RUPA) to bring together the Code of Conduct hearing," the statement read. "Israel has responded formally today to request a Code of Conduct hearing which, under the circumstances, was not an unexpected outcome. We will now work to confirm a date for the hearing as soon as possible. "After the date for the hearing is confirmed Rugby Australia and the NSW Rugby Union will make no further comment on the matter until the Code of Conduct process has concluded." -
@Stargazer So, I think god has told him his time in rugby is up, but, he should try and get some money for tithing before he leaves.
Could be win win, RA pay a % of what they’d be paying him normally, he walks away without causing anymore trouble to start his new career as a pastor?
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I got a written warning once over a simple failure to follow protocol. It didn't actually harm anyone or anything. Nobody outside a couple of teams knew about it. AND I advanced the project by about 6 weeks inadvertantly, but those are the rules.
You work for McDonald’s?
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@Billy-Tell lol no. Didn't dip my nuts in the soft serve or anything... At least not while working for McDonald's 😉
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Billy-Tell lol no. Didn't dip my nuts in the soft serve or anything... At least not while working for McDonald's 😉
Obviously prior to marriage.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Rembrandt Cheika coming out and saying he won't pick him is massive. Lawyers will ahve a field day with a lack of due process in that one
Why? Surely the same as Cheika saying he won't pick a player because he isn't a great defender. The coach can do whatever he wants, and it has nothing to do with Israel's contractual status.
Plus RA have already said point blank they intend to tear up his contract. It's not like Cheika's comments aren't in line with that stated intention.
Having Cheika and Hooper front the media was a savvy move on RA's part, to dispel any story about a split between RA and the players or coaches. Now they look united and strong, in the eyes of the public at very least.
Has Cheika ever come out and said that about someone? Or any international coach for that matter?
International coaches these days seem to play to the “he’s an excellent talent that is still developing” line rather than point blank saying specifically why they aren’t selecting a player.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Rembrandt Cheika coming out and saying he won't pick him is massive. Lawyers will ahve a field day with a lack of due process in that one
Why? Surely the same as Cheika saying he won't pick a player because he isn't a great defender. The coach can do whatever he wants, and it has nothing to do with Israel's contractual status.
Plus RA have already said point blank they intend to tear up his contract. It's not like Cheika's comments aren't in line with that stated intention.
Having Cheika and Hooper front the media was a savvy move on RA's part, to dispel any story about a split between RA and the players or coaches. Now they look united and strong, in the eyes of the public at very least.
Has Cheika ever come out and said that about someone? Or any international coach for that matter?
International coaches these days seem to play to the “he’s an excellent talent that is still developing” line rather than point blank saying specifically why they aren’t selecting a player.
I guess he'll say something similar to what BBBT said about Quade. Anyone remember what BBBT said about Quade?
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@Nepia paraphrasing 'he's not my type'
or
in fact:
*“It’s just a change of direction,” Thorn told reporters on Thursday.
“I thought Quade last year... the team struggled, his game management, his attack, his defence (struggled).
“I’m in this role — sometimes you’ve got to make tough decisions.”
Thorn said letting Cooper take up another contract was “the least we could do” for such a loyal club man.
“I played against him as a Crusader, as an All Black. He’s played over 100 games for this club — he’s had success here,” he said.
“He’s a guy who’s served this club really well.
“Respect to the guy, but we’re just going in a different way.”*
The last bit will certainly work for Tahs, and if Tahs drop him Cheika can ignore him - he's already said he won't pick from club rugby
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Statements like this, and Phipps, can be used as excuses for not picking him if he has to stay. He's divisive in the team with his 'spreading hate'. RA can't afford to pay him without playing him, I guess, so if the tribunal says he stays, or he appeals in the courts and they say it's unfair dismissal, I reckon RA will have to make a deal. Foolau can then go an play for a team in which homophobia is OK, he'll get a ton of offers.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Of course, maybe it was because THAT contract at the time was about to expire, and THIS one has just commenced.
I think this is more poignant than Drew Mitchell’s attempt at a gotcha moment.
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@ACT-Crusader I think that is what Drew was getting at, in a roundabout way. "Hey Izzy, what has changed here?"
I'm happy for him to get a month's pay and shown the door.
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The big criticism is that Folau's comments could have a detrimental effect on impressionable young gay people. Fair enough, but if he apparently has such a strong influence, what about all of his young fans? Why is there also no concern that they will suddenly freak out that mummy and daddy will got to hell for drinking beer or wine while watching the rugby. Or that/she will go to hell for not going to church? Should I have a word to my kids about why pappa is together with a woman he isn't married to? Why is it assumed that everyone else will be able to brush it aside as the rantings of an idiot rugby player, but gay people are likely to be driven to suicide? As a young kid I didn't care less about what players said. I just cared about what they did on the field. Even as an adult I generally completely ignore interviews with players unless it's after an amazing win. Most of what they say is boilerplate garbage anyway. I sympathise with the "words matter" argument, but Folau isn't a father, a teacher or small town priest. He's a guy who runs round with a ball.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel although TBF, when you were a kid, there was no social media...cos I bet some players from yesteryear woulda put up some classics (both awesome and incredibly dumb)
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@jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Has anyone had a look at Beales social media yet? Let’s keep this thing rolling
We also need to figure out the Oz players we want to keep too and ensure they remove anything offensive.
Anyway, I’ll be out for an hour or so while I do some searching of Solomone Kata’s social media.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Folau isn't a father, a teacher or small town priest. He's a guy who runs round with a ball.
His father is a preacher so ... He's the son of a preacher man.
And that's Falonk's destiny after footy. The question is how long that will be.
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