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  • Salacious CrumbS Offline
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    @barbarian said in World League Rugby:

    I do have some sympathy in that regard, as the way the process works is they start with a draft, take feedback into account, circulate another draft, and repeat as many times as necessary until you have an agreeable outcome. There's a pretty strict constitution which requires votes etc. on such issues.

    There was no indication that WR were intending to bypass that process.

    “I do have some sympathy in that regard, as the way the process works is they start with a bank draft, take feedback into bank account, circulate another bank draft, and repeat as many times as necessary until you have an agreeable income.

    “There was no indication that WR were intending to bypass that process.”

    Fixed it for you.

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    Yeah if it was a process, why weren't the Georgian RFU in it? If it was just press and players up in arms, I could say fair enough one of the many proposals leaked. I've seen that a lot. But when the Georgian Rugby head knows nothing about it? It stinks

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    with our squad of 50 All Blacks as per end of last year could the NZRFU still go ahead and organise official tests with the likes of PI teams and other tier two teams?

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    @Nevorian said in World League Rugby:

    with our squad of 50 All Blacks as per end of last year could the NZRFU still go ahead and organise official tests with the likes of PI teams and other tier two teams?

    We could schedule them midweek. Like we should've against Japan.

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    Rugby league is loving it. I see a triple header has been booked featuring all of the PI teams for November.

    Tonga has a huge wave to ride here, I hope they manage to surf it wisely.

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    World Rugby have released an official response.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12210246

    It states there will be promotion and relegation but Six Nations Rugby Championship will not be affected. It also states it would be a 2 conference system so I assume one side from each conference would be relegated. They will I imagine need to split all tier 1 and 2 teams into either the Rugby Championship or Six Nations.

    Below are the top 24 sides by World Rankings split into the two comps. Would almost be farcical to include the USA and not Fiji based on current standings.

    Top 12 Rugby Championship
    1 New Zealand
    2 South Africa
    3 Australia
    4 Fiji
    5 Argentina
    6 Japan
    7 Tonga
    8 USA
    9 Uruguay
    10 Samoa
    11 Canada
    12 Namibia

    Top 12 Six Nations
    1 Ireland
    2 Wales
    3 England
    4 Scotland
    5 France
    6 Georgia
    7 Italy
    8 Russia
    9 Spain
    10 Romania
    11 Belgium
    12 Netherlands

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    My problem with the composition of the RC group is, is that it is already a collection of countries of three continents (South America, Africa and Oceania). If they inlcude the USA/Canada and Japan as well, that will become 5 continents. The travel distance is already huge, and they'd make it even longer if they add the USA and Canada. Japan is less of an issue in that respect.

    IMO, the USA and Canada should be included in the European group, but they'll never do that, because Europe already has an established second tier (and third tier) competition, which they won't be willing to change.

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    @Stargazer and that's why any sort of global "league" is a pipe dream. The logistics are too fucked

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    @barbarian that doesn't line up with the players reps being excluded from a meeting this year, then being told things were moving under urgency, rather than the known timeline.

    Def halfbaked, but largely down to how WR have acted since late last year from what I've heard and read.

    Will all the 'feedback' I'm surprised it took so long for a journo to get a sniff!!

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    replied to chimoaus on last edited by Duluth
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    @chimoaus

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    World Rugby has moved to clarify the organisation’s position on the merits and structure of a Nations Championship concept in advance of key meetings in...

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    @MajorRage said in World League Rugby:

    Rugby league is loving it. I see a triple header has been booked featuring all of the PI teams for November.

    Tonga has a huge wave to ride here, I hope they manage to surf it wisely.

    League has come up with a competition that is pissing its fans off almost as much as rugby has.

    I don't think Tonga is sustainable, it's built on the mana of Taumalolo and Fifita and once those two go it will be hard for them to remain standing on the board. I think the Kiwis will touch them up next time they play (remember Fiji also beat the Kiwis in 2017, they were an actual mess).

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    @gt12 said in World League Rugby:

    @chimoaus

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    World Rugby has moved to clarify the organisation’s position on the merits and structure of a Nations Championship concept in advance of key meetings in...

    Well that clears things up, why the fuck didnt they just release this when it first popped up, this makes way more sense to me. I don't have a major issue with this format tbh. Be interesting to see what happens in BIL years.

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    @chimoaus

    Yeah, I'm a bit unsure about how some of the travel will work too. The BIL and WC years will suck for some teams who don't get a chance to go up, which seems a bit random. I'd have something different for those years. Personally, I'd have also taken the hard route and demoted one of the 6 nations countries and had two groups of 5 in each area, which would have meant that the playoffs for those positions would be more interesting and would have reduced the schedule by one game.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Same video posted earlier but this one should embed correctly:

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    World Rugby has moved to clarify the organisation’s position on the merits and structure of a Nations Championship concept in advance of key meetings in...

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    @chimoaus said in World League Rugby:

    Well that clears things up, why the fuck didnt they just release this when it first popped up, this makes way more sense to me.

    I like it

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    "Rest of the World" conference. Says it all. They wanted to preserve the existing European structure, so all countries that aren't already in that structure, have to play for "the other" conference, irrespective of location.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @Duluth

    Yep, it irons out the kinks from the last proposal and sounds sustainable.

    The only thing I’m not quite sold on, beyond the points I raised above, is why we will still need a World Cup?

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    @Stargazer

    Will all the SH teams have to go to Europe for the tests again teams outside their conference? That wasn’t clear to me.

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    replied to chimoaus on last edited by
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    @chimoaus said in World League Rugby:

    @gt12 said in World League Rugby:

    @chimoaus

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    144K views · 1K reactions | Nations Championship | World Rugby has...

    World Rugby has moved to clarify the organisation’s position on the merits and structure of a Nations Championship concept in advance of key meetings in...

    Well that clears things up, why the fuck didnt they just release this when it first popped up, this makes way more sense to me. I don't have a major issue with this format tbh. Be interesting to see what happens in BIL years.

    According to Pichot's social media posts, there was strong opposition in the WR Council during the earlier negotiation stages against the promotion/relegation part of the proposal. The fact that WR is posting this proposal now, is IMO just to calm down all opposition to the leaked proposal (without the promotion/relegation). The question is now, which of the proposals (with or without promotion/relegation) will they vote on (or vote on first)?

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    @gt12 said in World League Rugby:

    @Stargazer

    Will all the SH teams have to go to Europe for the tests again teams outside their conference? That wasn’t clear to me.

    As I understand it (not from the video, but from the information that was published earlier), SH teams will play 3 European teams in the July international window at home (or at least in the SH) and 3 other European teams in the November international window in Europe. The semi-finals and final would be played at a big neutral venue, in Europe (I think).

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