Has Hansen gone stale?
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Does it show the demographic of the Fern that there is an awful of angst towards 99/03/07, with the dominant Cantabs the easy scapegoats, and yet the 90-94 period, and the Auckland guys get away scot free these days? I feel like if this forum was around in 96 there would be a few other names getting cursed.
Too long ago? Too faded from memory?
Not all of us. I'm still blaming Vodanovich for 1970-71
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@machpants said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@machpants said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@snowy Nah it's official now, Cornish is an option on the Census.
How long before they secede?
Once the Druids decide the stars and animal entrails are in the right alignment
It's almost like you know my wife. Celts ey.
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@machpants Well as long as they are happy with their roots, we all are.
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@snowy well my wife is from Hertfordshire, but obviously has strong Kiwi roots now.
Anywhoo.
One issue with the match this weekend is it is unlikely to give us alot of insight into anything beyond what we have seen the past few weeks, more so that some of the selections dont appear to be offering much either.
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So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
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@antipodean said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
He's in a pretty sweet spot right now, so it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed
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@antipodean said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
I thought he has already decided to finish after the RWC?
Clearly Rennie isn't coming back for a shot at an AB job.
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@machpants said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
No he's not declared his decision yet
The guys on PR saying he's finishing at the end of the RWC must have jumped the gun then.
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Rennie is one of the most overrrated coaches. Initial success with the Chiefs then very average.
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@dogmeat said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Does it show the demographic of the Fern that there is an awful of angst towards 99/03/07, with the dominant Cantabs the easy scapegoats, and yet the 90-94 period, and the Auckland guys get away scot free these days? I feel like if this forum was around in 96 there would be a few other names getting cursed.
Too long ago? Too faded from memory?
Not all of us. I'm still blaming Vodanovich for 1970-71
Pick someone who can kick fucking goals, JJ - even if it's Laurie!
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@mariner4life I was at the 2nd game at Stadium Australia where Richie pounced on an untidy lineout to score and Matt Burke broke our hearts with a penalty in the last minute to retain the Bled. Green and gold confetti fell from the sky. Bled tickets in Sydney were rarer than hens teeth back then.
Weirdly for such an epic last minute Ozwin in the mould of Kefu and Eales there is no footage on the internet (that I can find).
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@mariner4life We certainly didn't have to worry about any dry powder in 2003.
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@nzzp It was 2002; the first link you posted is the epic 2000 game.
Here is a match report - good luck finding footage: http://www.espn.com.au/rugby/report?gameId=24259&league=244293
Australia have retained the Bledisloe Cup and kept their Tri Nations chances alive with a 16-14 victory over New Zealand in Sydney.
Wallaby outside-centre Matt Burke slotted a penalty after the siren had sounded to inflict Bledisloe devastation on the All Blacks yet again. It follows John Eales' penalty at Wellington in 2000 and Toutai Kefu's match-winning try in Sydney last year.
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It was the Wallabies' eighth win against the All Blacks in 11 games, while it was John Mitchell's first loss in 10 games as All Blacks coach. The Wallaby victory also means the Tri Nations is still up for grabs with even the Springboks having an outside chance of taking the title providing they win the final two games in South Africa.
The All Blacks looked to have the game won with a 14-8 lead on 71 minutes after trailing 8-3 at half-time. The Wallabies fell asleep in the second half, but a jinking try to league convert Mat Rogers in the 71st minute ensured a tense finish.
And certainly so when Burke's simple conversion hit the upright to leave the All Blacks in front 14-13.
The Wallabies scored two tries to one, but the boot of Andrew Mehrtens almost proved the difference with three penalties. Burke managed just one from two, but none are likely to be as memorable as his final kick.
The Wallabies should have had a greater lead at half-time if not for a series of turnovers and a poor decision by South African referee Andre Watson to deny Wallaby hooker Jeremy Paul a try in the 31st minute.
Watson judged that Wallaby prop Patricio Noriega obstructed the defence getting across to Paul from a ruck just short of the line, but replays suggested otherwise. As it was the decision did not matter.
What mattered was how the Wallabies collapsed after half-time following a dominant first half. Lock Nathan Sharpe put the Wallabies ahead 5-0 in the 16th minute with Burke adding his first penalty in the 35th minute for an 8-3 lead.
Mehrtens then put the All Blacks on the board with a penalty just before the break. And it was enough to spark his side into action as they totally controlled the game for the 30 minutes after half-time.
Mehrtens reduced the lead to 8-6 with a penalty in the 46th minute, then a mistake by the Wallabies on their own lineout close to the tryline allowed All Blacks flanker Richard McCaw to score the easiest of tries and hand his side an 11-8 lead.
The All Blacks had all the momentum from that point with the entire game played in opposition territory as the Wallabies blundered from one turnover and penalty to another.
The All Blacks were quite happy to kick possession back to the Wallabies who struggled under the pressure and with only some scrambling defence saving the day.
But for all their dominance during this period, the All Blacks could manage just three points through a Mehrtens penalty in the 51st minute.
"There's something about this place, it always seems to go down to the final minute," said Australian skipper George Gregan.
"It was a real heartbreaker," said All Blacks skipper Reuben Thorne. "We always knew it was going to be a close one. It's a tough loss."
Scoreboard
AUSTRALIA 16 Tries: Nathan Sharpe, Mat Rogers Goals: Matthew Burke 2 pen
NEW ZEALAND 14 Try: Richard McCall try Goals: Andrew Mehrtens 3 pen
Crowd: 79,543 At Telstra Stadium Referee: Andre Watson
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@mariner4life It's because the choking curse was so utterly at odds with our self image as a rugby nation - it was utterly emasculating (for men) and bewildering. The world made no sense and was overun with gleeful 'neutrals' cheering on our misfortune.
