Has Hansen gone stale?
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There are players for whom my abiding memory of them will be they lost to Ireland. Even those that won RWCs.
This applies to the coaching staff too.
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@chester-draws said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rotated we didn't choke in 1995. We lost in a tight match is all.
I dislike the idea that any team that loses must have "choked". Someone literally has to lose. Sometimes they play well and lose.
It used to piss me off that South Africans would accuse all NZers of choking based on three poor RWC runs, meanwhile ignoring that their teams were absolute babies about playing away from home. We were apparently both natural chokers and dominant with our provincial teams in any finals.
The best bit of winning those two cups, and particularly the one away from home, is that has died. Not the bit about how we blew it those times, because the ABs did, but how it was blown up to be the natural order -- even as we were increasingly dominant in the sport.
yea, the choke narrative was always kind of annoying
91 we were beaten by a better team trending up, while we were trending down (sounds familiar)
95 beaten by a narrative.
99 was a choke. A deadset choke.
03 completely out thought. Our plan wasn't good enough to beat their plan. Leon MacDonald's fault
07 Perfect storm of shit that could possibly go wrong in a rugby game, of which an element of choking played a part. Also Leon MacDonald's fault.We actually had the best team at 95 and 2007, and that's what hurt so much. But games aren't played on paper.
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@mariner4life I'd like to add Jeff Wilson's fault to 1999.
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@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life I'd like to add Jeff Wilson's fault to 1999.
No. You fucking can't. Alright?
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life I'd like to add Jeff Wilson's fault to 1999.
No. You fucking can't. Alright?
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
91 we were beaten by a better team trending up, while we were trending down (sounds familiar)
95 beaten by a narrative.Jeff Wilson's fault
99 was a choke. A deadset choke.
03 completely out thought. Our plan wasn't good enough to beat their plan. Leon MacDonald's fault
07 Perfect storm of shit that could possibly go wrong in a rugby game, of which an element of choking played a part. Also Leon MacDonald's fault.Too bad, I did.
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1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
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@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
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@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
you added his name to 1995 in your edit. So you obviously blame him for having food poisoning. No end to your hate.
There are a lot of people who need to take the blame for 99, but yea, Goldie is certainly one. Actually, that might be @MN5 's most accurate post on rugby ever. Pretty much everyone who isn't Jonah.
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
you added his name to 1995 in your edit. So you obviously blame him for having food poisoning. No end to your hate.
There are a lot of people who need to take the blame for 99, but yea, Goldie is certainly one. Actually, that might be @MN5 's most accurate post on rugby ever. Pretty much everyone who isn't Jonah.
Dolt, I'm just bad at foruming.
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
you added his name to 1995 in your edit. So you obviously blame him for having food poisoning. No end to your hate.
There are a lot of people who need to take the blame for 99, but yea, Goldie is certainly one. Actually, that might be @MN5 's most accurate post on rugby ever. Pretty much everyone who isn't Jonah.
More than likely. I remember that game better than the one vs Ireland just a few days ago. Definitely early stage dementia or alzheimers
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@mn5 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
you added his name to 1995 in your edit. So you obviously blame him for having food poisoning. No end to your hate.
There are a lot of people who need to take the blame for 99, but yea, Goldie is certainly one. Actually, that might be @MN5 's most accurate post on rugby ever. Pretty much everyone who isn't Jonah.
More than likely. I remember that game better than the one vs Ireland just a few days ago. Definitely early stage dementia or alzheimers
I just remember that ridiculous grey haired winger who only weighed as much as Jonah's prick. Fucking hell that was a dark day in NZ rugby.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mn5 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
you added his name to 1995 in your edit. So you obviously blame him for having food poisoning. No end to your hate.
There are a lot of people who need to take the blame for 99, but yea, Goldie is certainly one. Actually, that might be @MN5 's most accurate post on rugby ever. Pretty much everyone who isn't Jonah.
More than likely. I remember that game better than the one vs Ireland just a few days ago. Definitely early stage dementia or alzheimers
I just remember that ridiculous grey haired winger who only weighed as much as Jonah's prick. Fucking hell that was a dark day in NZ rugby.
Christophe Dominici. Fuck you guys for making me remember that
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@canefan said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mn5 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
you added his name to 1995 in your edit. So you obviously blame him for having food poisoning. No end to your hate.
There are a lot of people who need to take the blame for 99, but yea, Goldie is certainly one. Actually, that might be @MN5 's most accurate post on rugby ever. Pretty much everyone who isn't Jonah.
More than likely. I remember that game better than the one vs Ireland just a few days ago. Definitely early stage dementia or alzheimers
I just remember that ridiculous grey haired winger who only weighed as much as Jonah's prick. Fucking hell that was a dark day in NZ rugby.
Christophe Dominici. Fuck you guys for making me remember that
Actually Phillipe Bernartte Salles ( excuse the spelling ).
Garbajosa the fullback did an awesome revolving door impersonation too.
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2003 was fucking Carlos' fault. Leon wasn't even supposed to playing, let alone doing the goalkicking. BUT...
Who injured Tana? Carlos!
Who was supposed to do the kicking but turned out to be a worse goalkicker than me? Carlos!
Who threw a wild cut out pass to Mortlock?.....
Is fault, Carlos!
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@mn5 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@canefan said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mn5 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
1995 was Goldie's fault as well!! you fucking hater!!!
Fine, Piri Weepu nearly fucked 2011 for us!! And Kaino never deserved player of the year.
Uh oh, you've gone off the reservation now.
your typo caused it.
Look, it may surprise you that I'm no fan of the Crusaders, but if you're going to single out Leon MacDonald then the same must be done for other matches. Now, it's not Goldies fault he was playing 15 that day, but he was hopelessly out of position that day on many occasions, you could see it live at the ground and you could see it on the very painfully watched replay.
I stand by my comment.
Class right wing though.
you added his name to 1995 in your edit. So you obviously blame him for having food poisoning. No end to your hate.
There are a lot of people who need to take the blame for 99, but yea, Goldie is certainly one. Actually, that might be @MN5 's most accurate post on rugby ever. Pretty much everyone who isn't Jonah.
More than likely. I remember that game better than the one vs Ireland just a few days ago. Definitely early stage dementia or alzheimers
I just remember that ridiculous grey haired winger who only weighed as much as Jonah's prick. Fucking hell that was a dark day in NZ rugby.
Christophe Dominici. Fuck you guys for making me remember that
Actually Phillipe Bernartte Salles ( excuse the spelling ).
Garbajosa the fullback did an awesome revolving door impersonation too.
Garbajosa, what an crap name. All these arse holes had crap names. I remember N'temack in 94. What kind of stupid farking name is that?
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2003 - Deans. Didn't select Tana.
The rest is history.
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@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
2003 was fucking Carlos' fault. Leon wasn't even supposed to playing, let alone doing the goalkicking. BUT...
Who injured Tana? Carlos!
Who was supposed to do the kicking but turned out to be a worse goalkicker than me? Carlos!
Who threw a wild cut out pass to Mortlock?.....
Is fault, Carlos!
I think the manner in which Mortlock utterly and ruthlessly made Macdonald his bitch is why Macdonald gets so much shit. It was ugly. He should never have been playing there.
